Alcoholics Anonymous

Phil · Phil

Difficulties, opposition, criticism--these things are meant to be overcome, and there is a special joy in facing them and in coming out on top. It is only when there is nothing but praise that life loses its charm, and I begin to wonder what I should do about it. --Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit To be alive m...

wantneeda · wantneeda

When I was drinking and waking up sooooo sick, my only thoughts were about my hangover...trying to remember what i did the night before...water...and my next drink, the hair of the dog that bit me so to speak.... I woke up this morning and one of my first thoughts was a memory of my grade 11 math teacher...

Phil · Phil

Love can be great, but it can also be difficult. We all make mistakes - let these Top 10 lists serve as a friendly reminder of what does and does not make for a great relationship. Top 10 Do's 1. Do let your partner know that they are appreciated and loved. Make the time each day t...

Phil · Phil

Have you ever tried to love someone, but you could feel their emotional walls? You can feel them not letting you in. You can feel the little person trapped inside. Or have you ever felt somebody trying to get to you, but you can feel yourself stopping it? This is how most of us experience relationships. T...

Phil · Phil

IS A.A. FOR YOU? Only you can decide whether you want to give A.A.a try — whether you think it can help you. We who are in A.A. came because we finally gave up trying to control our drinking. We still hated to admit that we could never drink safely. Then we heard from other A.A. members that we were s...

Rick · Rick

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wantneeda · wantneeda

hi all, I have had something on my mind now for awhile...i have a friend who keeps relapsing..we were very close...he actually stayed with me for awhile when out of treatment...we made a deal that if one of us used we were not to come home...he did and came home...i got over it somewhat and gave him one m...

wantneeda · wantneeda

this is a lengthy post...I hope you's don't mind. I found some useful info here. There is great mention of God as well, I choose to call my HP God. \\// Wendy Forgiveness Reprinted from The Sermon On the Mount, by Emmet Fox FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THEM THAT TRESPASS A...

Phil · Phil

Thanks for sharing John, from way down below. And to others that have shared on medical stuff and pills also, and their experiences. Acceptance, is the word Im looking for, and just doing what we gotta do. I know when Im off key, it can affect sanity-it can affect attitudes-and emotional balance-...

Phil · Phil

Property Lines A helpful tool in our recovery, especially in the behavior we call detachment, is learning to identify who owns what. Then we let each person own and possess his or her rightful property. If another person has an addiction, a problem, a feeling, or a self-defeating behavior, that...

Suzy · Suzy

Hi everyone I have been wondering, 'Am I an alcoholic if, sometimes I can have just one drink or three, if I water them down alot and fool myself into thinking that I am having a 'good time'. I have been doing this because I find it so hard to never drink and also because I know that if I am very cautio...

Suzy · Suzy

Hi everyone Thank you firstly for all your responses. I did try to drink tonight, in the end I tried not to. It is a struggle all the time. I guess I have finally 'remembered' to hand over to my higher power, eventually and in the nick of time. Like I said , I have a short m...

Phil · Phil

Contaminating a Relationship Every one of us has an irrational and destructive emotional side to our personality. This dark side can sabotage your relationship in an insidious way. Below are the most common characteristics of "bad spirits," and how they can impact a relationship. Y...

wantneeda · wantneeda

God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway The good fortune to run into the ones I do and the eyesight to tell the difference. Had to laugh when i read this!! Have a beautiful sober 24 all!! \\//Wendy

GammyRose · GammyRose

I just finished reading your posts. I'm so glad the Drs. finally got their act together. I don't understand why we have to pay them to confuse us. I went to the Dr. the other day for an ear problem, saw a PA, and he was able to tell me my problem wasn't my ear after all these years, it is my TMJ, I have seen many...

Rick · Rick

Good Grief "The strangest thing happened," said my friend, a lovably neurotic, very obsessive businessman in his mid-forties. "I was watching one of those afternoon TV talk shows. This one was about problem kids. A parent comes on. She talks about how out of control her child is. Then a...

Rick · Rick

As children bring their toys with tears for us to mend, I brought my broken dreams to God, because He was my Friend. But then, instead of leaving Him in peace to work alone, I hung around and tried to help with ways that were my own. At last I snatched them back and cried, "How can You be so slow?" ...

Phil · Phil

Thanks for all your support yesterday guys. We all have our bad days. I just had a few in a row.:) I guess the main thing is we work through it--we get through it, and become stronger because of it all. Im at a point where Ive got to make a couple big decisions in life, over the next couple of weeks a...

Phil · Phil

MYTH #1: A GREAT RELATIONSHIP DEPENDS ON A GREAT MEETING OF THE MINDS You will never see things through your partner's eyes because you are two entirely different people. You are genetically, physiologically, psychologically and historically different. You will not solve your rel...

wallsal55 · wallsal55

What can you tell me about complacency? laurels. My

Phil · Phil

Thanks for taking that Guru thing off. Old Timer i can accept-(smile) Used to be Gods right hand man Or so I thought.:) There was a time when Ide enjoy the attention--not anymore. It feels good to just be a regular simple recovering Alcoholic again, and just carry on with a low profile.:...

ellen · ellen

there is a lady who is new to the fellowship and this is her first time in...she has accumulated 40 days and is really doing well..except for the fact that there is a guy with "13years" who has latched on to her and now she is conflicted. I am so pissed at this guy and we are all a bit annoyed at him. I w...

Phil · Phil

Bad moments, like good ones, tend to be grouped together. --Edna O'Brien Rough times may be pouring in on us at the moment, and they may seem unending. Difficulties appear to attract more difficulties, problems with loved ones, problems at work, problems with our appearance. A negative attitu...

wantneeda · wantneeda

So i need to clear up some warrents i have for my job...my boss needs to do a crimainal background check...2 of the warrents ...are for parking tickets...i was in the bar no doubt...I lived on the streets pretty much for 3 years...the beginning of the 3 years was the beginning of my bottom, although toda...

Phil · Phil

Sometimes it takes some of us a delayed reaction time, before we come to certain realizations, and "Click" another light bulb goes off. I had that happen today. Just something that I did not fully understand that was happening in a relationship. Was up all night searching for answe...

cheri · cheri

One bathroom... 2 girls...one 14 and one 9 the screaming matches in the morning are out of control. I've tried getting one up earlier to avoid the race for the bathroom but now the other one is getting up earlier too. Not sure why they can't both brush thier hair at the same time, but this is obviously...

Suzy · Suzy

Hi Staying away from the bottle is the hardest thing for me. I start working all the other steps and start to feel better and then I slip. I jsut dont know how to do this. They say jsut dont pick up the forst drink , but that is exactly where I am no good. I am making all kinds of exc...

Nic · Nic

I'd put ten bucks on the fact he's talking about your signature...the title that comes up under your avatar.

Celt · Celt

Anyone know of any chat rooms to do with our kind? LOL makes me feel like some kind of vampire! Spose I am in a way.

wantneeda · wantneeda

heart.!!!!   :...

John · John

Purchase an item from the Miracles In Progress Gift Shop For yourself...

Celt · Celt

any one on here still fighting with the demon? can't get over step one yet I need HELP!!!!

wantneeda · wantneeda

A year ago today....i was so lost in trying to escape me, my reality. Not knowing a month and a day to come i'd start the best journey of my life...my recovery. I hated me, i hated life. i hated my life. I didn't have the courage to call my girls on Mother's day...i stayed wallowing in my own shite, feeling so...

Phil · Phil

Saw you in here this morning our freind. Sent you an email last night. Come on in and join us buddy. Youre no different from the rest of us here. And you have absolutely nothing to fear. We dont judge you, or criticize you. We are all recovering from the disease of alcohol, one day at a time. And if y...

wantneeda · wantneeda

Hi Brandon, sorry we missed you, hope you come back. I'm in Canada and yes it seems we're all on at different times here...it's 6:30 pm here for me right now...my e-mail is gypsy_066@hotmail.com it doesn't seem to show but there's supposed to be an underscore between the y and the 0. F...

Celt · Celt

HI if you can see this. need to talk!

crambo · crambo

It's so freaky...when i stopped drinking and people heard I was going to AA, a lot of friends didnt want to hang out anymore;they thought AA was weird or creepy or a cult..i'm sure a lot of you had heard that from people that you know..i was feeling so lonely, and i asked the universe every day to ple...

Nic · Nic

This is for the mothers who have sat up all night with sick toddlers in their arms, wiping up the yellow spew splattered with sprinklings of chewed up cherios soaked in Fanta saying, "Its okay honey, Mummy's here." For those who have sat up at night&nbs...

cheri · cheri

Hi, looks like us nightowls are awake and kicking. I'm going to the chat room wanna meet me there?

Phil · Phil

Learning New Behaviors Sometimes well take a few steps backward. Thats okay too. Sometimes its necessary. Sometimes its part of going forward. Life is a Gentle Teacher. She wants to help us learn. The lessons she wants to teach us are the ones we need to learn. Some say they are the lessons we c...

Suzy · Suzy

Hi everyone Sorry I have not visited for a while. The thing is I have been diong some serious contemplating about my life and how I want to go forward. I managed to get the courage to call a contact here. She was so helpful, unjudgemental and shared with me things about her life that sounde...

Celt · Celt

thsi is a load of p**s you lot are just about as much help asw another hole in my ass! Wishing you all the best on your recovery but I really think you aqll need to get to more meetings, specially you Phil;! What's with the GURU shite? any way CYA dudes

Phil · Phil

Fear Of Success? Keep an open mind on this one-these are my views and my thoughts only-and the second cup of coffee is just starting to kick in.:) When one is used as a scapegoat as a child, and told that theyll never amount to anything--it sticks. And this guy beleived it. Lets just put the alcohol as...

Phil · Phil

The battle to keep up appearances unnecessarily, the mask--whatever name you give creeping perfectionism--robs us of our energies. --Robin Worthington How familiar we are with trying to be persons other than ourselves; ones more exciting, we think, or sexier, or smarter. We have pro...

Celt · Celt

Sorry, just looked down the list DUUUH what a dufuss

Celt · Celt

Thought this was the "first stop" for us guys!!~!! last topic I can see aws posted in December last year! What, suddenly theres no alchys in the world or your all "out" of recovery?

wantneeda · wantneeda

I am a drug addicted alcoholic...i'm also a double winner...aa adult child of alcoholics...todays courage to change reading i thought i'd share today. May 8 "Yes but..." These 2 words have become a signal to me that I am refusing to accept something over which I am powerless. My world is rich with...

Rick · Rick

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY HAVE A HAPPY SOBER DAY. ENJOY THE MANY MOMENTS LUV YA ALL

Phil · Phil

Communicating with Emotional Integrity If you respond to stress or conflict with an ingrained pattern that includes avoidance, anger, denial, etc., it can get in the way of effective communication, distancing you even further from your partner. Dr. Phil suggests using the steps below in order to...

Rick · Rick

Liquor ceased to be a luxury; it became a necessity."

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Today (Preview) Difficulties, opposition, criticism--these things are meant to be overcome, and there is a special joy in facing them and in coming out on top. It is only when there is nothing but praise that life loses its charm, and I begin to wonder what I should do about it. --Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit To be alive m...	Phil	0	515	May 15, 2005 by Phil
	Its a brand new day!!! (Preview) When I was drinking and waking up sooooo sick, my only thoughts were about my hangover...trying to remember what i did the night before...water...and my next drink, the hair of the dog that bit me so to speak.... I woke up this morning and one of my first thoughts was a memory of my grade 11 math teacher...	wantneeda	2	876	May 14, 2005 by GammyRose
	Love can be great OR difficult (Preview) Love can be great, but it can also be difficult. We all make mistakes - let these Top 10 lists serve as a friendly reminder of what does and does not make for a great relationship. Top 10 Do's 1. Do let your partner know that they are appreciated and loved. Make the time each day t...	Phil	0	638	May 14, 2005 by Phil
	Emotional Walls (Preview) Have you ever tried to love someone, but you could feel their emotional walls? You can feel them not letting you in. You can feel the little person trapped inside. Or have you ever felt somebody trying to get to you, but you can feel yourself stopping it? This is how most of us experience relationships. T...	Phil	1	1046	May 14, 2005 by kismetstrand
	Is AA For You? (Preview) IS A.A. FOR YOU? Only you can decide whether you want to give A.A.a try — whether you think it can help you. We who are in A.A. came because we finally gave up trying to control our drinking. We still hated to admit that we could never drink safely. Then we heard from other A.A. members that we were s...	Phil	0	590	May 14, 2005 by Phil
	adversity (Preview) you.	Rick	0	558	May 13, 2005 by Rick
	detaching...but where? (Preview) hi all, I have had something on my mind now for awhile...i have a friend who keeps relapsing..we were very close...he actually stayed with me for awhile when out of treatment...we made a deal that if one of us used we were not to come home...he did and came home...i got over it somewhat and gave him one m...	wantneeda	2	609	May 13, 2005 by GammyRose
	Forgiveness (Preview) this is a lengthy post...I hope you's don't mind. I found some useful info here. There is great mention of God as well, I choose to call my HP God. \\// Wendy Forgiveness Reprinted from The Sermon On the Mount, by Emmet Fox FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THEM THAT TRESPASS A...	wantneeda	2	488	May 13, 2005 by wantneeda
	Reply to John R. (Preview) Thanks for sharing John, from way down below. And to others that have shared on medical stuff and pills also, and their experiences. Acceptance, is the word Im looking for, and just doing what we gotta do. I know when Im off key, it can affect sanity-it can affect attitudes-and emotional balance-...	Phil	6	533	May 13, 2005 by cheri
	Putting This One On My Refridgerator (Preview) Property Lines A helpful tool in our recovery, especially in the behavior we call detachment, is learning to identify who owns what. Then we let each person own and possess his or her rightful property. If another person has an addiction, a problem, a feeling, or a self-defeating behavior, that...	Phil	2	574	May 13, 2005 by Phil
	I have a question (Preview) Hi everyone I have been wondering, 'Am I an alcoholic if, sometimes I can have just one drink or three, if I water them down alot and fool myself into thinking that I am having a 'good time'. I have been doing this because I find it so hard to never drink and also because I know that if I am very cautio...	Suzy	8	939	May 12, 2005 by GammyRose
	By the Grace of God (Preview) Hi everyone Thank you firstly for all your responses. I did try to drink tonight, in the end I tried not to. It is a struggle all the time. I guess I have finally 'remembered' to hand over to my higher power, eventually and in the nick of time. Like I said , I have a short m...	Suzy	1	469	May 12, 2005 by GammyRose
	Contaminating A Relationship (Preview) Contaminating a Relationship Every one of us has an irrational and destructive emotional side to our personality. This dark side can sabotage your relationship in an insidious way. Below are the most common characteristics of "bad spirits," and how they can impact a relationship. Y...	Phil	0	835	May 12, 2005 by Phil
	senility Prayer (Preview) God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway The good fortune to run into the ones I do and the eyesight to tell the difference. Had to laugh when i read this!! Have a beautiful sober 24 all!! \\//Wendy	wantneeda	2	525	May 12, 2005 by ellen
	Hey Phil, (Preview) I just finished reading your posts. I'm so glad the Drs. finally got their act together. I don't understand why we have to pay them to confuse us. I went to the Dr. the other day for an ear problem, saw a PA, and he was able to tell me my problem wasn't my ear after all these years, it is my TMJ, I have seen many...	GammyRose	2	786	May 12, 2005 by Phil
	Grief (Preview) Good Grief "The strangest thing happened," said my friend, a lovably neurotic, very obsessive businessman in his mid-forties. "I was watching one of those afternoon TV talk shows. This one was about problem kids. A parent comes on. She talks about how out of control her child is. Then a...	Rick	0	735	May 12, 2005 by Rick
	Let Go and Let God (Preview) As children bring their toys with tears for us to mend, I brought my broken dreams to God, because He was my Friend. But then, instead of leaving Him in peace to work alone, I hung around and tried to help with ways that were my own. At last I snatched them back and cried, "How can You be so slow?" ...	Rick	0	698	May 12, 2005 by Rick
	Hey Guys-thanks for the support (Preview) Thanks for all your support yesterday guys. We all have our bad days. I just had a few in a row.:) I guess the main thing is we work through it--we get through it, and become stronger because of it all. Im at a point where Ive got to make a couple big decisions in life, over the next couple of weeks a...	Phil	2	532	May 11, 2005 by John_R
	10 Relationship Myths (Preview) MYTH #1: A GREAT RELATIONSHIP DEPENDS ON A GREAT MEETING OF THE MINDS You will never see things through your partner's eyes because you are two entirely different people. You are genetically, physiologically, psychologically and historically different. You will not solve your rel...	Phil	0	771	May 11, 2005 by Phil
	Phil and all/ Complacency (Preview) What can you tell me about complacency? laurels. My	wallsal55	2	764	May 11, 2005 by Phil
	Thanks John (Preview) Thanks for taking that Guru thing off. Old Timer i can accept-(smile) Used to be Gods right hand man Or so I thought.:) There was a time when Ide enjoy the attention--not anymore. It feels good to just be a regular simple recovering Alcoholic again, and just carry on with a low profile.:...	Phil	0	695	May 11, 2005 by Phil
	relationships in the first year?? (Preview) there is a lady who is new to the fellowship and this is her first time in...she has accumulated 40 days and is really doing well..except for the fact that there is a guy with "13years" who has latched on to her and now she is conflicted. I am so pissed at this guy and we are all a bit annoyed at him. I w...	ellen	6	583	May 11, 2005 by GammyRose
	A New Day (Preview) *Bad moments, like good ones, tend to be grouped together. --Edna O'Brien* Rough times may be pouring in on us at the moment, and they may seem unending. Difficulties appear to attract more difficulties, problems with loved ones, problems at work, problems with our appearance. A negative attitu...	Phil	1	811	May 11, 2005 by Rick
	Wreckage of the past (Preview) So i need to clear up some warrents i have for my job...my boss needs to do a crimainal background check...2 of the warrents ...are for parking tickets...i was in the bar no doubt...I lived on the streets pretty much for 3 years...the beginning of the 3 years was the beginning of my bottom, although toda...	wantneeda	4	1433	May 11, 2005 by wantneeda
	Did you ever screw up "big time?" (Preview) Sometimes it takes some of us a delayed reaction time, before we come to certain realizations, and "Click" another light bulb goes off. I had that happen today. Just something that I did not fully understand that was happening in a relationship. Was up all night searching for answe...	Phil	3	541	May 10, 2005 by ellen
	Suggestions anyone... (Preview) One bathroom... 2 girls...one 14 and one 9 the screaming matches in the morning are out of control. I've tried getting one up earlier to avoid the race for the bathroom but now the other one is getting up earlier too. Not sure why they can't both brush thier hair at the same time, but this is obviously...	cheri	4	529	May 10, 2005 by cheri
	Staying away (Preview) Hi Staying away from the bottle is the hardest thing for me. I start working all the other steps and start to feel better and then I slip. I jsut dont know how to do this. They say jsut dont pick up the forst drink , but that is exactly where I am no good. I am making all kinds of exc...	Suzy	17	676	May 10, 2005 by cheri
	Guru (Preview) I'd put ten bucks on the fact he's talking about your signature...the title that comes up under your avatar.	Nic	6	628	May 10, 2005 by GammyRose
	Real chat (Preview) Anyone know of any chat rooms to do with our kind? LOL makes me feel like some kind of vampire! Spose I am in a way.	Celt	5	493	May 10, 2005 by cheri
	11 months today!!! (Preview) heart.!!!!   :...	wantneeda	8	512	May 9, 2005 by wantneeda
	Miracles In Progress Gift Shop (Preview) Purchase an item from the Miracles In Progress Gift Shop For yourself...	John	4	1421	May 9, 2005 by John_R
	drink any one? (Preview) any one on here still fighting with the demon? can't get over step one yet I need HELP!!!!	Celt	1	444	May 9, 2005 by John_R
	Reflection (Preview) A year ago today....i was so lost in trying to escape me, my reality. Not knowing a month and a day to come i'd start the best journey of my life...my recovery. I hated me, i hated life. i hated my life. I didn't have the courage to call my girls on Mother's day...i stayed wallowing in my own shite, feeling so...	wantneeda	3	446	May 9, 2005 by wantneeda
	Hey Celt? (Preview) Saw you in here this morning our freind. Sent you an email last night. Come on in and join us buddy. Youre no different from the rest of us here. And you have absolutely nothing to fear. We dont judge you, or criticize you. We are all recovering from the disease of alcohol, one day at a time. And if y...	Phil	0	491	May 9, 2005 by Phil
	Celt (Preview) Hi Brandon, sorry we missed you, hope you come back. I'm in Canada and yes it seems we're all on at different times here...it's 6:30 pm here for me right now...my e-mail is gypsy_066@hotmail.com it doesn't seem to show but there's supposed to be an underscore between the y and the 0. F...	wantneeda	2	484	May 9, 2005 by wantneeda
	Anyone still awake out there? I'm UK time (Preview) HI if you can see this. need to talk!	Celt	2	497	May 9, 2005 by Suzy
	The universe listens (Preview) It's so freaky...when i stopped drinking and people heard I was going to AA, a lot of friends didnt want to hang out anymore;they thought AA was weird or creepy or a cult..i'm sure a lot of you had heard that from people that you know..i was feeling so lonely, and i asked the universe every day to ple...	crambo	1	493	May 9, 2005 by wantneeda
	Happy Mothers Day (Preview) This is for the mothers who have sat up all night with sick toddlers in their arms, wiping up the yellow spew splattered with sprinklings of chewed up cherios soaked in Fanta saying, "Its okay honey, Mummy's here." For those who have sat up at night&nbs...	Nic	4	709	May 9, 2005 by crambo
	Psst...Wendy (Preview) Hi, looks like us nightowls are awake and kicking. I'm going to the chat room wanna meet me there?	cheri	3	461	May 9, 2005 by cheri
	Have a good Monday (Preview) Learning New Behaviors *Sometimes well take a few steps backward. Thats okay too. Sometimes its necessary. Sometimes its part of going forward.* Life is a Gentle Teacher. She wants to help us learn. The lessons she wants to teach us are the ones we need to learn. Some say they are the lessons we c...	Phil	0	479	May 9, 2005 by Phil
	F2F meetings (Preview) Hi everyone Sorry I have not visited for a while. The thing is I have been diong some serious contemplating about my life and how I want to go forward. I managed to get the courage to call a contact here. She was so helpful, unjudgemental and shared with me things about her life that sounde...	Suzy	2	462	May 8, 2005 by wantneeda
	crap (Preview) thsi is a load of p**s you lot are just about as much help asw another hole in my ass! Wishing you all the best on your recovery but I really think you aqll need to get to more meetings, specially you Phil;! What's with the GURU shite? any way CYA dudes	Celt	3	447	May 8, 2005 by cheri
	Reply To Wantneeda (Preview) Fear Of Success? Keep an open mind on this one-these are my views and my thoughts only-and the second cup of coffee is just starting to kick in.:) When one is used as a scapegoat as a child, and told that theyll never amount to anything--it sticks. And this guy beleived it. Lets just put the alcohol as...	Phil	4	478	May 8, 2005 by cheri
	Sunday (Preview) *The battle to keep up appearances unnecessarily, the mask--whatever name you give creeping perfectionism--robs us of our energies. --Robin Worthington* How familiar we are with trying to be persons other than ourselves; ones more exciting, we think, or sexier, or smarter. We have pro...	Phil	1	450	May 8, 2005 by Celt
	sorry must be pissed again (Preview) Sorry, just looked down the list DUUUH what a dufuss	Celt	0	480	May 8, 2005 by Celt
	Where is everyone? (Preview) Thought this was the "first stop" for us guys!!~!! last topic I can see aws posted in December last year! What, suddenly theres no alchys in the world or your all "out" of recovery?	Celt	0	533	May 8, 2005 by Celt
	Courage to change (Preview) I am a drug addicted alcoholic...i'm also a double winner...aa adult child of alcoholics...todays courage to change reading i thought i'd share today. May 8 "Yes but..." These 2 words have become a signal to me that I am refusing to accept something over which I am powerless. My world is rich with...	wantneeda	0	501	May 8, 2005 by wantneeda
	all u mothers (Preview) HAPPY MOTHERS DAY HAVE A HAPPY SOBER DAY. ENJOY THE MANY MOMENTS LUV YA ALL	Rick	3	523	May 8, 2005 by crambo
	Into some Dr Phil Stuff--Im not Him>:) (Preview) Communicating with Emotional Integrity If you respond to stress or conflict with an ingrained pattern that includes avoidance, anger, denial, etc., it can get in the way of effective communication, distancing you even further from your partner. Dr. Phil suggests using the steps below in order to...	Phil	1	572	May 8, 2005 by Nic
	AT SOME POINT (Preview) Liquor ceased to be a luxury; it became a necessity."	Rick	0	417	May 8, 2005 by Rick
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