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Wow, Long time no see!

I hope your all getting on great, and I wish the world for each and everyone of you.


Anyways, I'm posting as I do come in pretty much every day to have a read, and I've just read a post by a newby that has confused me. (nothing towards the poster of course)smile
I'm still drinking a hell of alot I'm doing about 2-3 bottles of rosé a day, I no longer drink the beer,or vodka. but I'm just confused as to the information thats been given, (I am in NO way critasizing anyone if this is how this comes across) I know it's all up to how much you drink ect and what, but I was told by medical profecionals not to stop drinking straight away, through fears of DTs.
What I read in the initial post was pretty much exactly what I get, I wake in the morning and the first thing I do is crack open a bottle of vino, and thats my main stable for the day.
I remember posting about it on here maybe last year that I was told NOT to stop just like that and you all seemed to throw your hands up!!LOL
So now I'm just very confused I'm very isolated and don't have direct access to medical help nore is there any AA of ANY sort on the island anymore.
I would just like to ask one more thing.

I drink Rosé of between 11% and 13% (up to 3 bottles a day)

I was drinking beer of 5.5% (up to 14 bottles a day-half pint bottles)

Or half a litre bottle or more of Smirnoff vodka and some times mix it with the beer.

what sounds worse to you in percentage wise, i don't want to sound niave but I am, and like I said there is no where for me to go here.
I desperatly want to stop but I'm scared of the repocusions.

Sorry about the rant.

Thanks all 

Flumps.xx   



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Hiya Flumpy,

So, how did the tapering off work for you?

I started out with vodka, and when I quit, I got DTs. Along with the stomach hemmoraging.

When I stopped drinking Port or MD2020, I got the DTs.

When I thought I was doing myself a favor, and jipped down to beer, and I quit cold, I got DTs.

So I guess it all depends on metabolism, or maybe the quantities and length of time I drank. Probably varies from person to person, according to their size, the shape their liver is in, alot of factors.

Perhaps if you're considering stopping, you may want to go to an area where medical help is available to alleviate your fears?   Chris

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Hi Flumpy,

It's good to see you posting again.

I ended up drinking about 3 to 4 bottles of wine each day, plus anything else that was available to me.

I just quit when I started going back to AA, but I have been told since that it wasn't the wisest thing for me to have done and I did go through a not very pleasant time of withdrawals. But, as Chris said, it probably all depends on your metabolism, how long you have drinking for and so on. It's different for each person.

I do hope that you can discuss things with your GP or someone medically qualified. I was advised to try to cut down gradually, but I found that impossible. One thought could be ... is there anybody that you can stay with you knows you and your situation and could help you to cut down gradually?

Please keep posting and letting us know how things are going for you, won't you?

Take care,

Carol

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Hi Flumpy,

I Recovered from Alcohol 14 years ago coming up February 19, 2008. I uses to drink eveyday and use cocaine during that time as well. One would take me up the other down. My favorite alcohol was tequilla and I could drink a large bottle a night and then work on another by the morning I had finished close to that as well.

No one told me about ALcoholism or about any reprecussions so I went "COLD TURKEY" after an 8 ball and a bottle of blue gin. I dropped to my kness and called out for GOD this time being my last time. Called A.A. but it took me 4 months to walk through the doors of AA.

My Withdrawals, seizures, and shakes were there long before I stopped. So I also stopped smoking as well 4 months into my Sobriety. It was ALL or nothing! I was so physically ill with Health Problems from other things coupled now with the Alcohol. I had to Stop right then and never go back.

I walked and walked until my legs hurt, I swam, excercise helped a great deal. I would drive someplace and turn around and come back. I finally got a Sponsor and worked the steps from 1 through 12. I beleived in the steps to the point that I held on to them as GOSPEL!
I started to go to Church and to pray to GOD on a regular basis. after all he is the one that was helping me "ONE DAY AT A TIME." It was sometimes even one second at a time.

My favorite passage in the Big Book is the bottom of 448, 449 and the top of 450, the 3rd edition. I must have lived on this page for my first 2 years. The withdrawals were worth every bit of getting Sober for me.
I also was healed on the Alter of ur Church from the Seizures and from other things. God is an enormous part of my life and I couldn't geet along without him.

I will pray that you can do this on your own. Unless GOd wants you to be someplace else. You are Special in his Eyes. He Loves you! The last thing he wants is for you to not succeed at quitting drinking. Remember " YOU CAN DO IT."


Please keep in touch, Love you

This post was edited because of Religious content....

-- Edited by Phil at 10:16, 2007-10-13

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 If you've "been told my medical professionals" before, then you obviously have some  access to medical facilities and doctors! I would suggest, if you desire to stop drinking, then you stop making excuses and be willing to go to any lengths.........

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We are burying an old friend of mine TODAY (Saturday, OCt. 13).  He never went to AA or even admitted that he was an alcoholic.  Some who were closer to him than I said he was drinking around a liter of 80 proof (40%) alcohol a day before the end(that is not too far off being the equivalent of 3 to 3.5 liters of wine a day).  Do that enough, day after day, and the liver and/or pancreas will eventually give out.

The only time I have heard of anyone being told to keep drinking by professionals, was when they were due to go into 'in-patient' treatment within 48 to 72 hours.  That was only because they wanted to have the person under supervised medical attention when they did take them off the alcohol.

The following is just my advice, and you can take it or leave it as you wish.  In fact if you do not want advice that may not be appealing to you, feel free not to read on:
As far as AA goes, if there are no official meetings going on where you are, do you know of anyone else in your vacinity who is also trying to deal with alcoholism? Have you asked around?  It only takes 2 to make a meeting.  Get your hands on all the AA literature you can find, even if you can't find an AA buddy.  I would recommend starting with the AA "Big Book", particularly the first 5 chapters, if you haven't already done so.  Also, check this site if you have not yet done so: http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/?Media=PlayFlash.

We can only succeed when we are certain that we have hit bottom-that we are "willing to go to any lengths" to stop.  I know that if I entertain any notion (or any excuse) that I can continue drinking, I will continue to do so.




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Hey Flumpy..:)

You aint ready to give it up..till youre ready to give it up...

Get atter!!  :)

When you get sick enough? If you dont die first...?

AA and the people in the programme will be waiting for you with open arms....

An Alky cant conn another Alky...Weve all been there...

You cant go halfway from point A...to point B....and expect to arrive at a destination....:)

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"I desperatly want to stop but I'm scared of the repocusions."




There's lots of wisdom in the responses above. I don't have alot to add other than if you really mean it go back to that doctor and ask for help. Good luck

Bryan

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Hey Flumpy,

Consider leaving the island. This disease kills people. The amount of alcohol that you're consuming puts you in
the late stages of the disease and if you  continue drinking those amounts daily, you're not likely to survive it.
So with that said, leaving the island to go to a treatment center (or for other medical treatment), could very well be a life or death decision for you. Or you can continue to "paint yourself into a corner" and drink yourself to death, it's very common and not a very nice way to go. One things for sure, you're not likely to get validation for the latter in here.

Best of luck to you

-- Edited by StPeteDean at 10:44, 2007-10-14

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Sounds like the voice of rationalization to me.

If we COULD cut down gradually, we would not be alcoholic, would we?

If you fear the DTs, and do not want to die of alcoholism, get yourself somewhere so that you can have the withdrawal period under medical supervision. I drank 2-3L of wine per day, quit cold turkey, and had minimal withdrawal symptoms (of the scary kind, anyway). That is NOT to say that was a wise decision or was not some sort of freak occurrence.

My opinion of docs who are not supportive of a heavy drinker/alki stopping is not high at all. My own doc would not consider that I had a drinking problem when the failing liver blood work was staring him in the face. I quit without his support (but WITH AA), and returned with normal blood work within a year, at which point he said, "hmmm..."

The disease kills. DTs CAN be managed if you plan in advance.

We will be here when you are ready to "go to any lengths".

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Hullosmile

Well I have more than halved my wine intake over the last week, and I'm feelin' good!, I've gone from 3 bottles a day to half or maybe at a real push 1 1/2.
I'm drinking loads of water, and tea, I'm also eating again so thats good!
I can't goto a dry out place as I have 2 children, and I can't leave them.
Doll the medical advice I got about not to give up straight away was from England, in my local hospital last year, I have no such thing here!
I'm 30 next month and I want to be clean by then, I'm going to try my hardest.
But I have to add this is one of the worst places in the world to live if you have a drink problem!
Nothing but bars for as far as the eye can see.
BUT....
I'm going to try and hold on to this feeling I have now and remember it and carry it with me, to remind me of who I am and not what I've become.

Thankyou all for your replys, they mean alot to mesmile

I have other demons to irradicate too, but I'll tackle the largest first I think.

Love Flump.xx

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Dearest Flumpy, good to meet you here. I'm glad you're tussling with your largest prob first. It is 1Day@aTime & quitting is probably the biggest & most courageous thing you can ever do. This is what makes my sobriety so dear to me. Every day that goes by that I don't take a drink is an achievement for me because this is not how it was before. If I wasn't drinking I was leading up to it mentally obsessing or recovering after with shot at concentration & some sense that I'd violated myself (probably because I had with all my silliness & behaviours, etc). I quit before my 30th too & I was in proper panic mode coming up to that birthday. I was 6months sober & had no idea how I could enjoy myself without it. I went to the pub with friends the day before on St Paddy's Day & my fate really hung in the balance. I looked around, saw the messiness in there & decided I'd 'been there done that' & I wanted to experience what else life has in store for me. 15years copious drinking is enough for me. I just had my 1st year sobriety too & I can recommend it. There is lots of hope for you. Keep coming back & sharing who you are with us. That's the beauty of sobriety. You get to find yourself, Flumpy. Posting here can be a great distraction & focus too. I wish you the best :) Danielle x

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