Alcoholics Anonymous
Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: Mentally Retarded...And Can't Get It Started..


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 2063
Date:
Mentally Retarded...And Can't Get It Started..
Permalink  
 



Undoing alcohol's damage to the mind


With sobriety, the brain can begin to restore some lost function, researchers find.By Melissa Healy
Times Staff Writer

December 25, 2006

In addition to claiming lives, marriages, homes and careers, alcoholism has a greedy way of robbing its victims of brainpower, as well. Over time, alcohol dependence literally shrinks the brain and several of its components. And in so doing, it erodes an alcoholic's ability to learn new tasks, remember things and organize for action. Even regular, heavy drinking can take a cognitive toll, researchers have found.

But a new study published in the journal Brain details the remarkable ability of the thinking organ to regenerate itself and regain function when its host chooses the path of sobriety. The research also underscores a key warning - quit now, or risk damage that could be harder to reverse.

A team of European researchers used magnetic resonance imaging to assess the brains of 15 alcohol-dependent and 10 healthy subjects and tracked the volume of two key brain chemicals that are indicators of cell health and activity. The subjects were given a battery of tests of cognitive function at the beginning and end of the study. As the 10 male and five female alcoholics embarked on a journey of sobriety, the team of radiologists plotted a remarkable story of comeback.

In less than two months without alcohol consumption, the brain volume of alcoholic subjects increased, on average, 1.85%. Cerebellar choline levels - indicators of how well brain cells are able to relay messages - increased 20%. Levels of another brain chemical that indicates proper function of the brain cells went up 10%. The more dramatic those changes, the greater the improvement in a subject's performance on tests of cognitive function.

The study is among the first to show where regeneration occurs most robustly in the early days of an alcoholic's recovery - in the brain's ventricles and in the white matter that helps brain cells and brain regions coordinate and communicate more smoothly with one another.

By comparison, the brains of healthy subjects, who also were asked to abstain from alcohol during the study period - did not change.

Dr. Andreas Bartsch of the University of Würzburg, Germany, said the study, when added to several that have shown similar resilience on the part of the brain under assault by alcohol, holds a hopeful message for drinkers beset by lapses of memory, motivation and judgment.

"Abstinence pays off and enables the brain to regain some substance and perform better," Bartsch said. "The adult human brain, and particularly its white matter, seems to possess genuine capabilities for regrowth," he added.

The study is the latest and most detailed of a mounting body of research showing how alcohol - even heavy drinking that falls short of dependence - can impair cognition, and how abstinence can prompt at least a partial reversal of intellectual deficits.

Those studies have established that alcoholism can cause significant loss of short-term memory skills and of higher-order functions such as reasoning, planning and prioritizing. In adults as well as adolescents, alcohol abuse was associated with changes in the brain - in particular in the prefrontal cortex, the seat of higher reasoning.

The most well-documented alcohol-related impairments occur in a drinker's visual-spatial skills - those that allow us to drive, read a map and orient ourselves in three-dimensional space. A Stanford University study published in August found that although middle-aged alcoholics who had been abstinent for as little as six months regained virtually all lost function on measures of abstraction, attention, memory, reaction time and verbal skills, the damage to their visual-spatial skills was not so easily undone.

Studies have found that women are particularly vulnerable to the cognitive effects of alcoholism, and that smoking tobacco during recovery can significantly hamper the brain's process of self-repair.

The length of a person's descent into alcoholism is also key, a point that Bartsch's study underscores. Bartsch says that among the 15 alcohol-dependent patients who participated in his study, the degree to which a subject showed return of lost brain volume and function correlated with the duration of their alcoholism. Those who had been dependent longest showed more modest, and in one case, no recovery, he said. That's why, he said, it's important for alcoholics to quit as soon as possible, before secondary medical or psychiatric disorders make recovery harder and cognitive deficits more difficult to reverse.

To Clancy Imislund, a recovering alcoholic who is managing director of Los Angeles' Midnight Mission, research that details the comeback of cognitive function hits home but also misses a key point.

"It's a funny thing: The brain of an alcoholic is really a dried-out brain," said Imislund, referring to research suggesting that alcohol cripples and kills brain cells, in part, by dehydrating them. "As the alcohol goes out of your system and the synapses get to working better, if you stay sober for a while, it's been my experience they come back pretty well."

But Imislund added that, with abstinence, alcoholics must face the outside world again, and the challenge of doing so reinvigorates the brain - a dynamic that research, he acknowledges, may never capture.

"When you straighten out, you get going again and you get some focus outside of yourself," Imislund said. Alcoholics, he added, may "appear to be mentally retarded. They're not, they're just mentally self-obsessed. They need to be pulled out of themselves. And that's when your cognitive abilities return, I believe."

In a commentary accompanying Bartsch's study, Yale University psychiatrist Graeme Mason wrote that physicians treating alcoholics in recovery could use the latest research to encourage those patients by holding out the prospect that abstinence will pay off with real gain in intellectual function. The study and the commentary appear in the Dec. 18 online edition of the journal Brain.



 



__________________
"LOVE" devoid of self-gratification, is in essence, the will, to the greatest good...of another.


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 1349
Date:
Permalink  
 

When I saw your thread title, I thought this was going to be either a joke, or some tongue in cheek little thing. But this is a very important article and finding. Number one, it confirms the detrimental affects on theh brain, it really does get pickled.  Number two it gives hope to those who go into recovery earlty, that the damage may not be permanent, although the hope for much change in those who have been pickling their brains for tooo  many years is less, there can still be progress.   the comment made by a lay alcoholic gives the motivation for applying this change to our lives, and does not contradict what the doctor says at all.   Retardation is a different issue from brain damaged.  The significant physiological improvement can partly explain the 'pink cloud' that some people experience,  though then the recovering alcoholic is right that there is the issue of using that recovered brain power to deal with life.


Thanks for a good article that gives the latest scientific findings. 


love in recovery,


amanda



-- Edited by amanda2u2 at 12:37, 2007-01-12

__________________
do your best and God does the rest, a step at a time


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 2063
Date:
Permalink  
 

Retardation is a different issue from brain damaged.? 


Well....um...


In my case?  The jury is still out...(smile)


And acceptance is the key...



 


 



__________________
"LOVE" devoid of self-gratification, is in essence, the will, to the greatest good...of another.


Senior Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 111
Date:
Permalink  
 

Good post Phil...thank's


this  reminds me of a line in the Big Book''


When the spiritual malady is overcome ,we straighten out mentally physically..


But i dont no what happen to me!!!!!!!!!!!!


THANK'S



__________________


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 2063
Date:
Permalink  
 

Its ok Mikey....We are not alone....then again? Maybe we are...(smile)


Thought for the night..


"Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.."



__________________
"LOVE" devoid of self-gratification, is in essence, the will, to the greatest good...of another.


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 2063
Date:
Permalink  
 

One of the reasons..that I drank...


http://jbreck.com/itsshardtokiss.html



__________________
"LOVE" devoid of self-gratification, is in essence, the will, to the greatest good...of another.


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 799
Date:
Permalink  
 

Ain't easy to kiss the guy that's HOME all day long to chew at. All this time I thought I drank cuz I was an alky, and I could've blamed it on the lazy schmuck sitting in the arm chair with the tv control. Keep it up, Phil, keep it up. Recliner

__________________

 

"Never argue with an idiot... They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience..."



Senior Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 109
Date:
Permalink  
 

Hi Phil,


That was a great post.  I only have my experience to draw upon, but towards the end of my drinking the group of upstanding gentlemen that I hung around with seemed to take great pleasure in telling all who would listen that I was on the verge of what they called "wet brain."


If I make it to next Saturday I'll have eleven years.  In that time I've gotten a BA, MA, and am currently working on my doctorate in Urban Education.  Seems like a few of those wet brain cells have regenerated.  God is good.  All the time.


Mike in Boston - Go Patriots!!



-- Edited by sheilasdad at 08:39, 2007-01-13

-- Edited by sheilasdad at 08:40, 2007-01-13

__________________


MIP Old Timer

Status: Offline
Posts: 1349
Date:
Permalink  
 

Guess it's cuz I'm looking at the professional article as one who has a scientific and medical background, that I distinguish between 'retarded' and 'brain damaged',  and I call 'wet brain'  "Korsakov's Syndrome".  Working in a hospital and in other positions I've seen DT's and Korsakov's Syndrome.  They impressed me deeply.  The people were in other 'realities' totally and oblivious to actual 'reality'.  The people in the DT's got better after a few days, but the ones with Korsakov's were lost and confused forever. 'Retardation' is basically a learning disability. The people are in touch with reality, but have difficulty comprehending it and developing skills, depending on the degree of retardation. Some brain damaged people are not retarded.   I know one young man, 20 years old, who was in a car accident. He is very intelligent but has some handicaps like seizures, and coordination.  I knew some people who were retarded because of some early genetic problems, like those with Down's Syndrome.


 I guess that is very technical to some people who are not interested in these fine points and see both as basically the same, that see all of these cases as people who just can't get it together for whatever reason.  Whatever.  The major point is that there is hope for recoery.


love in recovery,


amanda



__________________
do your best and God does the rest, a step at a time
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.