Being humiliated is not the same as having humility.
We have all suffered humiliation. Perhaps a spouse ridiculed us in public or a parent's disorderly conduct shamed us in front of our friends. Perhaps a boss criticized us in front of co-workers.
However, we could have refused to let our egos be injured. Had we then the tools we have now, we could have felt compassion for the perpetrator. No healthy person heaps injury of any kind on another struggling soul. The program taught us this.
We have learned about true humility. To be humble is to surrender, to give up trying to change people or circumstances, to give up trying to force our will upon others. Humility is being quiet, being at rest, and being confident that God is present in every situation. Humility is being at peace, always.
No one can humiliate me today unless I accept that condition.
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Thank you for that posting. I seem to enjoying trying to make things happen in my time and not in God's. And, my house manager asked how is that working? Guess what its not. I have not lost my faith that my HP will aid in my daily life. But, what I have done is surrender and then take it back. Not truly giving it up. Not letting go and let God. I seem not to be able to get out of my own way. And, to be humble is to be grateful. Grateful for what is in my life now and what can be if I only let God do it.
I have to disagree with that. Humiliation taught me humility. If our ways where right, we would not be in the fix we found ourselves. We are not saints, and I dont think anyone comes in without a bag full of ill and selfish intentions, operating out of self-constructed principles and motives that are as changing as how we happen to feel at the moment. Most of us -die- in the resulting consequences of our behavior and decisions. And rightly so. What would the reward be for doing well? Our program is that still living, we have a chance to turn it around if we are willing. The soft, mushy, comfortable, DISHONEST path of telling someone that they are really a 'good' person, and nothing is their fault, is temporary, false comfort as they stumble toward their grave. Not knowing any better does not excuse our condition. Even born into it is no excuse. If my father worked hard and left me money, would I not rightly take hold of my inheritance? Who could tell me it is not mine? Would my concience? No. And just the same, I am responsible for the bad that I inherited by blood. My concious confirms it. I argued and pleaded my innocence with God to the point of broken minded-insanity. I had a good case. I would have convinced you. He didn't budge. Truth is truth whether I lived or died, it wasn't going to change for me. That is why it takes us having been there to be capable of understanding, tolerating and helping the disgusting creature that crawls in the door. Half of the shiver of revulsion we feel taking this sight in is seeing ourselves. And it is then looking inside that we find ourselves honestly -capable- of loving this person that deserves nothing of the kind. It comes from truth and understanding, not something we conjure up because it's a really feel-good right thing to do. Exactly the opposite. It's often the most difficult thing we do. When I spoke some of the things I had been through, done, and seen, and my sponsor didn't even blink, just pointing out profoundly simple truths from his own similar experiences, bringing light to what hid in the darkness of my mind, and simply by listening shouldering a share of the load. This is the love of our program. No one else could have done this. Mother Teresa couldn't have done it. She was never there. and if she had tried, it would have been dishonest. There is no love in dishonesty.
Humiliation is a key ingredient in the recipe that saved my life. I picked up buckets of white chips over the year or so I stumbled in and out. One of the points that stand out is stumbling into a meeting drunk one night. Bitching, moaning, blubbering about suicide, whooped. And then I got to the point. Somehow a thousand meetings and I must have missed it. Just HOW, again, EXACTLY do you people get sober I asked. Every eye in the room was on me. I was a sight. An old fellow in that meeting looked me dead in the eye. First, stop feeling sorry for yourself. No one in this room feels sorry for you. That truth cut right through all the b.s.. I remember stammering a thank you. The next day, in and out of the d.t.'s I struggled with, drinking as soon as they where over only to stop again, I could have died from the humiliation of what I had done last night. I could have shrunk and dissappeared right there, with no one around the humiliation was so powerful. And then something rose in my gut, telling me, if I was going to make it, I had to take it. And I had to face that room again. Go in there 'sober', half in d.t.'s and face them all again. I did. It was out of humiliation I found the humility to listen. And it was in the humiliating failure of my reliance in self that I became capable of relying on God.
Proverbs 27:6 "Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses."
I appreciate seeing more than one perspective, shared with respect. Remember the story of the 6 blind men and the elephant? Each one was trying to figure out what an elephant was like, and was feeling a different part of the elephant. They argued about whether the elephant was like a tree, which the leg one was feeling, or like a fan which thought the one feeling the ear.
I see valid points in both posts, and will take what I need and leave the rest from thesse and everything that I see and hear at meetings.
In these two posts I see two kinds of humiliation: one is the kind that other people try to do by putting us down, and I agree that we don't have to buy that and can look at that as abuse; while the second kind is what we do to ourselves in behaving in ways that are truly disgusting and below the kind of behavior that is healthy and constructive, which could be the point at which we feel the guilt that could motivate us to improve.
Thanks for both posts,
love in recovery,
amanda
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Your right on that. Perspective. If I came off critical, I hope it was constructively towards soft headedness. This is serious business. When I came in, I was offered comfort, validation and acceptance. Maybe that would help someone else, but at the end, my crutches where kicked out from under me, I was told to walk, and it saved my life.