I am a 37 year old male that has been drinking for 25 years,with the very few and far between recreational pharmacutecal.I have never really admitted before that I have a problem only because I never drank everyday.I can go with out but if i have that first beer or drink it will lead to a lot more.I have decided that it is time for me to slow down a bit.I am not sure if I want to quit totally or just get control of it.I know this may not work but I think I should try.I may get to the point were I say that enough is enough or it is too tough to have just 1 or 2.I come from a family with a history of alcohol abuse which I understand is a reason for my drinking.I have not been "drunk" in almost 2 mths ,i have been good so far and not buying beer and only having 1 or 2 when I go out.I am jsut coming out of a long term realationship which my binging was a problem.Surprisingly I havent had a few to help with the nerves and emotion.Everday is a struggle and I hope to get a handle on it
sorry for the long rant and if it is out of order jsut wrote it as it camne to mind
Step One From The 12 Steps and 12 Traditions Book of Alcoholics Anonymous
We admitted we were powerless over alcohol--that our lives had become unmanageable."Who cares to admit complete defeat? Practically no one, of course. Every natural instinct cries out against the idea of personal powerlessness. It is truly awful to admit that, glass in hand, we have warped our minds into such an obsession for destructive drinking that only an act of Providence can remove it from us. No other kind of bankruptcy is like this one. Alcohol, now become the rapacious creditor, bleeds us of all self-sufficiency and all will to resist its demands. Once this stark fact is accepted, our bankruptcy as going human concerns is complete. But upon entering A.A. we soon take quite another view of this absolute humiliation. We perceive that only through utter defeat are we able to take our first steps toward liberation and strength. Our admissions of personal powerlessness finally turn out to be firm bedrock upon which happy and purposeful lives may be built. We know that little good can come to any alcoholic who joins A.A. unless he has first accepted his devastating weakness and all its consequences. Until he so humbles himself, his sobriety--if any--will be precarious. Of real happiness he will find none at all. Proved beyond doubt by an immense experience, this is one of the facts of A.A. life. The principle that we shall find no enduring strength until we first admit complete defeat is the main taproot from which our whole Society has sprung and flowered. When first challenged to admit defeat, most of us revolted. We had approached A.A. expecting to be taught self-confidence. Then we had been told that so far as alcohol is concerned, self-confidence was no good whatever; in fact, it was a total liability. Our sponsors declared that we were the victims of a mental obsession so subtly powerful that no amount of human willpower could break it. There was, they said, no such thing as the personal conquest of this compulsion by the unaided will. Relentlessly deepening our dilemma, our sponsors pointed out our increasing sensitivity to alcohol--an allergy, they called it. The tyrant alcohol wielded a double-edged sword over us: first we were smitten by an insane urge that condemned us to go on drinking, and then by an allergy of the body that insured we would ultimately destroy ourselves in the process. Few indeed were those who, so assailed, had ever won through in single-handed combat. It was a statistical fact that alcoholics almost never recovered on their own resources. And this had been true, apparently, ever since man had first crushed grapes. In A.A.'s pioneering time, none but the most desperate cases could swallow and digest this unpalatable truth. Even these "last-gaspers" often had difficulty in realizing how hopeless they actually were. But a few did, and when these laid hold of A.A. principles with all the fervor with which the drowning seize life preservers, they almost invariably got well. That is why the first edition of the book "Alcoholics Anonymous," published when our membership was small, dealt with low-bottom cases only. Many less desperate alcoholics tried A.A., but did not succeed because they could not make the admission of hopelessness. It is a tremendous satisfaction to record that in the following years this changed. Alcoholics who still had their health, their families, their jobs, and even two cars in the garage, began to recognize their alcoholism. As this trend grew, they were joined by young people who were scarcely more than potential alcoholics. They were spared that last ten or fifteen years of literal hell the rest of us had gone through. Since Step One requires an admission that our lives have become unmanageable, how could people such as these take this Step? It was obviously necessary to raise the bottom the rest of us had hit to the point where it would hit them. By going back in our own drinking histories, we could show that years before we realized it we were out of control, that our drinking even then was no mere habit, that it was indeed the beginning of a fatal progression. To the doubters we could say, "Perhaps you're not an alcoholic after all. Why don't you try some more controlled drinking, bearing in mind meanwhile what we have told you about alcoholism?" This attitude brought immediate and practical results. It was then discovered that when one alcoholic had planted in the mind of another the true nature of his malady, that person could never be the same again. Following every spree, he would say to himself, "Maybe those A.A.'s were right..." After a few such experiences, often years before the onset of extreme difficulties, he would return to us convinced. He had hit bottom as truly as any of us. John Barleycorn himself had become our best advocate. Why all this insistence that every A.A. must hit bottom first? The answer is that few people will sincerely try to practice the A.A. program unless they have hit bottom. For practicing A.A.'s remaining eleven Steps means the adoption of attitudes and actions that almost no alcoholic who is still drinking can dream of taking. Who wishes to be rigorously honest and tolerant? Who wants to confess his faults to another and make restitution for harm done? Who cares anything about a Higher Power, let alone meditation and prayer? Who wants to sacrifice time and energy in trying to carry A.A.'s message to the next sufferer? No, the average alcoholic, self-centered in the extreme, doesn't care for this prospect--unless he has to do these things in order to stay alive himself. Under the lash of alcoholism, we are driven to A.A., and there we discover the fatal nature of our situation. Then, and only then, do we become as open-minded to conviction and as willing to listen as the dying can be. We stand ready to do anything which will lift the merciless obsession from us.
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Hi there, and well done for admitting that things may need to be addressed, all I can do is quote you what I was quoted, I did all the experimentation out there, and I have lots of experience in controlled drinking, but for me having will power and having just one drink did not come together, it was like having will power over a dodgy stomach and the runs!!
anyway the quote:
If anyone who is showing inability to control his drinking can do the right-about- face and drink like a gentleman, our hats are off to him. Heaven knows, we have tried hard enough and long enough to drink like other people!
Here are some of the methods we have tried: Drinking beer only, limiting the number of drinks, never drinking alone, never drinking in the morning, drinking only at home, never having it in the house, never drinking during business hours, drinking only at parties, switching from scotch to brandy, drinking only natural wines, agreeing to resign if ever drunk on the job, taking a trip, not taking a trip, swearing off forever (with and without a solemn oath), taking more physical exercise, reading inspirational books, going to health farms and sanitariums, accepting voluntary commitment to asylums we could increase the list ad infinitum.
We do not like to pronounce any individual as alcoholic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself, step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to decide, if you are honest with yourself about it. It may be worth a bad case of jitters if you get a full knowledge of your condition.
A man of thirty was doing a great deal of spree drinking. He was very nervous in the morning after these bouts and quieted himself with more liquor. He was ambitious to succeed in business, but saw that he would get nowhere if he drank at all. Once he started, he had no control whatever. He made up his mind that until he had been successful in business and had retired, he would not touch another drop. An exceptional man, he remained bone dry for twenty-five years and retired at the age of fifty-five, after a successful and happy business career. Then he fell victim to a belief which practically every alcoholic has that his long period of sobriety and self-discipline had qualified him to drink as other men. Out came his carpet slippers and a bottle. In two months he was in a hospital, puzzled and humiliated. He tried to regulate his drinking for a little while, making several trips to the hospital meantime. Then, gathering all his forces, he attempted to stop altogether and found he could not. Every means of solving his problem which money could buy was at his disposal. Every attempt failed. Though a robust man at retirement, he went to pieces quickly and was dead within four years.
This case contains a powerful lesson. most of us have believed that if we remained sober for a long stretch, we could thereafter drink normally. But here is a man who at fifty-five years found he was just where he had left off at thirty. We have seen the truth demonstrated again and again: "Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic." Commencing to drink after a period of sobriety, we are in a short time as bad as ever. If we are planning to stop drinking , there must be no reservation of any kind, nor any lurking notion that someday we will be immune to alcohol.
boy that makes my spine tingle, im 26 years old mate, too young to be an "alky" but alcoholism is a equal opps disease.
Hi Tim, good to meet you. You've got a bit of stuff to mull over in the replies above, hope you give it an earnest look. I would ask my self a simple question. Is it always there? Is alcohol and drinking always lodged somewhere in your head, the idea of it, the thought of it? And the struggle every day. Ever heard of a dry drunk? It's pretty miserable. You dont have to drink yourself to death and loose all before you get there. Some of us where there before we started drinking. Do things burn in your mind that come back worse no matter how thoroughly you woop 'em and keep turning in the same old circles? If you find yourself admitting these things are so for you, then youve got a decision to make. Either keep on, and watch it get worse, or find a solution. We bunch of drunks have found something that worked for us, it's the 12 steps you've probably heard about. The first action you could take in the direction of getting loose from all that is to find a meeting, and drag your miserable carcass there. You'll find folks who have been there and made it out, and you will be able to identify with them and learn how they did it. Ryan P.S. Post on here any time and let us know how it goes for you, and youll also have some folks praying for you, if you dont mind. Did me a lot of good.
Welcome to this wonderful forum. It's a good place to be. I pop by here a couple of times each day and read and post as much as I want to. It really does help me enormously.
When I first really admitted that I had an alcohol problem I found it to be a great relief. I just couldn't control my drinking. As soon as I started one drink, that inevitably led to the next and the next until I was drunk again. I would go for a few days without drinking, but I wasn't happy and I hated every minute of it. The passage from the Big Book that Robert quoted was so typical of me. Even on the odd occasion that I wasn't drinking, I was obsessing about it constantly.
My long-term boyfriend left because of my drinking, but he is staying with me at the moment and we are having a wonderful time and talking openly and honestly about the effect my drinking has had on our relationship and on him, too. It's helping us both.
Please keep popping by here and let us know how it is going for you, won't you?
Take care,
Carol
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
thanks everybody for making me feel welcome.It is a daily struggle for me as I am sure it is for everybody.I am not sure if I want to go tot a meeting,my ex said she would go with me if I wanted to go.I am scared and embarresed at the thought of seeing someone I knoe.I know that sounds weird but I am,I guess they would have felt the same way at some point.I would like to know were my drinking comes from?I know I have an alcoholic family but there has to be a reason for me wanting to binge at times to "forget the world"
Queztal,sounds like you and I have a similar story.My drinking was 1 of the reasons that my ex and I broke up.I cant just have 1 or 2 social drinks it was 1 or 2 then 12,16.MY ex is an addiction counselor though not working in the feild.I told her after we broke up that I would have went for help if you had asked.She said she didnt see it that way and didnt think it was as big as a problem as it is.She said when it is close to home you put blinders on.I never drank everyday or morning or oddlly before 6 pm.We also still live in the same house but I am moving next week,too hardto stay here feeligns and all.
I am so glad I found this board and I know from what i have read so far that I will find the help and support that i andwe all need
Ohh I havent been "drunk" since July 14.I went out with co-workers for "happy hour" and got stinking loaded drunk.I dont remember getting home or any of most of the evening.MY ex thought I wasnt going to wake up the next day,that was my wake up.I have been out since and have limited myself to the max of 3 beers.That is a real struggle but I have to be strong and not do it
When I first started going to AA meetings I was petrified that I would meet somebody that I knew. But, it didn't happen for quite a while. Then, when it did, I realised that we were both there for the same reason. I've now met quite a few folk that I knew before going to AA and it has never caused a single problem.
It does sound as if you and I have a very similar story. I could never limit myself to just one or two drinks. My boyfriend had simply had enough and had to move out to save himself. I don't blame him one bit. Now, we are starting to really talk again and we talk about the damage that I did, not only to myself, but to him and our relationship. It isn't always easy, but we are closer now than we have been for several years and it feels great.
I'm so glad that you are here with us. Don't forget to let us know how things are going for you, will you?
Take care,
Carol
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss