Some of us, observing that ideals are rarely achieved, proceed to the error of considering them worthless. Such an error is greatly harmful. True North cannot be reached either, since it is an abstraction, but it is of enormous importance, as all the world's travelers can attest. --Steve Allen
How many of us, seeing others who failed to live fully by their ideals, cried, "Hypocrite!" Perhaps we even pointed to others' shortcomings to excuse our own. Now, in this program, we may be tempted to swing like a pendulum to the other extreme. We may hold to our values and principles so tightly that we are perfectionistic.The idea that True North cannot ever be reached is very useful. If we don't achieve True North, even though we establish it as our standard, we will generally be heading in the right direction. Although we never perfectly achieve our ideals, they remain our standards today for orienting our lives.I do accept standards for my life. I will not beat on myself for my imperfections.
XXXXXXXXXX oh man, i screwed up with this job we are trying to get......the guy called LAST WEEK at least, ago, and asked me re: our employees or subs doing the actual painting.......i said they worked only for us, been with us for YEARS, but they were paid as subs...i mean i told the truth...........
jim, the paint salesman had a FIT....he had said to the prospect that they were employees.....well EMPLOYEES are on payroll/ can collect UI insurance, etc, they are NOT employees....anyway, i know i shouldn't have given the info....i was wrong, and i own that.....i just hope that it didn't cause the bid to go south.......it was over a week ago i talked with the guy....and that was after he had had us in for interview #1.....well today was interview #2 so i guess , if we went to interview #2, that means that they were interested in us enuf to call us back AFTER i gave the info re: subs vs. employees.......
i think our former salesman and still friend maor is right....its going to boil down to price....... who has the best price.......it usually does.....who has the lowest bid......so we must have been in the running....... after i answered this guy's ???s on the subs......otherwise he woudn't have had us back for interview #2.......now?? if the job goes under, and they don't say explicitely it was price, i'll get the blame for it.....but it makes NO sense if what i said "blew us out of the water" WHY would they call us back for interview #2........
i know i was wrong.....i learned a lesson over this...........DONT say anything to anyone re the bids...........have them call the sales people..........but what is done is done......i cannot do anything about it now............i hope this isn't a HARD lesson.....i mean it could cost me my job........or us a decent paint job.....here we are hurting for work, and i don't want to ADD to our strife.....we have enuf, with over priced bids, shooting us out of the water, OR we do a bid and someone in the office has a "friend" get the job..........i don't want to do ANYthing to harm this company........so for that i feel bad........
hey, rosie,,, you really didn't do anything wrong. Phil is right about putting the hammer down and stop beating yourself up. People hire other people for quality of work and price, mainly. If you are in trouble for telling the truth, there is something wrong with the people who are doing it that way, and not you for being honest. I am sometimes the target of hostility for being an idealist, by people who love their mediocrity or who are hypocrits. There is a saying about being proud to be in trouble for doing a good thing. What's money, anyway? It's gone the next paycheck,,, when integrity and honor are what is lasting.
I really appreciate that analogy about True North,,, and it has nothing to do with Canada or Canadians,,, hahaha even if they'd like to think so, eh? One of my favorite songs is "To Dream the Impossible Dream", and it is about following a star (the North Star?) and about ideals. I am an idealist, used to be a perfectionist. Now I know it is okay to be imperfect if we are doing the best we can. Our ideals do give us a direction to aim in,, and something to strive toward.
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do your best and God does the rest, a step at a time
All I can add to what has been written, is we are only humans, we make mistakes, thats what humans do, I made the mistake of thinking a piece of Salmon I had just purchased was going to be o.k., well it was not, and guess who payed the Price, Me. Just an example of how we do make errors in our judgements.
If it would make you feel better, you could say to someone that you acknowledged that you were not suppose to give out that information, and you won't do it again. Thats what I would do to just get rid of that Feeling, 10th Step stuff, does seem to clear my side of the street. Then let the chips fall where there are going to fall. And forget it.
Holding on to that feeling is the worst part for me. 10th step, It is DONE. Worry and Guilt are two to the most wasted of human emotions to my mind.
And whatever you do, Rosie, FORGIVE YOURSELF - PLEASE!!! Do it for Him, your Higher Power,
I always tell the contractor(s) that my paint crews are sub-contractors, not employees, simply to clarify the responsibility of taxes, insurances, and workmen's comp, and payroll draws against the job bid, etc. All workers are required to fill out a W-9 tax form and also provide a notarized Waiver of Responsibility for personal injury against myself, the contractor and the property owner. The contractor is provided with a certified copy of my insurance retainment covering 2 million dollars of property damage, and 1 million dollars personal injury should litigation become a issue with any of those working as subs on my crews.
When a contractor see's that I am dotting the i's and crossing the t's to derail any potiential job related legal issues, it impresses them and I'm more inclined to get the job than lose it because of the bidding involved. The lowest bid doesn't always win the job in the painters world... often it is the bidder that reflects "detail" in their bid work that gets the job. My crews stay busy, and I'm never the lowest bidder. I bid with honesty, integrety and detail... The contractors often pick my bid simply because they come to feel this is what they can expect of me on the job site.
You didn't do anything wrong... you did what the sales rep should have been doing as a part of their job and failed to do.
Where does recovery fit into this picture? Today I don't negotiate or compromise my values in make a dime or save a dollar. I present honesty and integrety and let God work out the details as He see's fit
