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(((((((((((((((Guys))))))))))))))))

I read a post about Intamacy, and wow, It has given me some food for thought. For the last few years, I have not gone near sex..Because I never trusted anyone enough to let them close to me. Last year I started having sex, as you all know.  And It was like learning a new way of life for me..biggrin.

And It all ended a few months ago, So for the last 4 months, nothing...And I have missed it. The man in my life ths "A" (Recovering), After me learning to detach from him, came back to me. We started having sex again....We have chemistry between us..lol We cannot get enough of eachother, And I would never have admitted this before Al-Anon, but. WOW...I am "Horny" all the time for him...lol (I am feeling my feelings for the first time).

I feel reborn, I'm finding out who Ally really is. What I enjoy, what I don't, Also what can I "Accept" in my life....

My problem today is just that..Can I Accept this relationship for what is is...Someone at f2f asked me last night, can I accept him for who he is.

Well I have been doing that for years. But I have always wanted, needed to analize "EVERYTHING" In my life, over and over again.

So the situation is:::::We both work long hours, do meetings, etc. Have no real social activities, no other people involved with us, male or female...Is this enough for us...

For some reason, He keeps comming back to me, everytime I try to let him go..He senses "BIG" changes is me..We are actually more comfortable in eachothers company, and It's so natural.... He came in the otherday and started telling me about an issue he has with his son, and I was gobsmacked.... I sat and listened to him. For once I did NOT have to drag a convo from him....

Could It be, although he is not able to commit, Is he realising he still Needs or wants me in his life. We discussed this last week and I told him, I wanted him In my life In some capacity.Can we build on this relationship. We are both at meetings, and hes working the programme right now.....

I know this has been an on going Issue in my life for the past 7 months....And It Is not just going away...I know we both need to discuss this, I also know I need to be tough with him..And not let myself go back to the painful place I was in not long ago...

Also he is the typical guy, "I don't need this emotion shit"..lol  So If this Is the case, Why does he keep comming back. If this Is all about sex for him, He can go elsewhere and get it with NO emotional ties... No-one Is forcing him to return to us again..... Argggggggggggg...."MEN" lol

I'm doing really well, working long hours again, enjoying it, When I'm with him, he makes me smile, I drive him mad..lolbiggrin

Life Is going okay for me...I am learning to live only for 24 hrs.....And It feels so good for me....I am trying to bring this relationship Into a 24hrs rule only...But hey, I'm still learning...wink

I am getting my self confidence back, I'm proud of what I have acheived In Al-Anon, and thank everyone who has listened to my endless venting..lol



Any thoughts on this, would be appreciated

Your Nutjob

Ally Girl
evileyeevileye

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"Holy Mackeral!!"

Well.....Theres 2 pages on sex in the Big Book...and its certainly a human instinct...and my take is...as long as everything is mutual...between 2 people...Thats what matters...

Ive talked with others where ....its freindship with fringe benifits...and no expectaions..


And others where sex and intimacy is an extension of love..

And others where intimacy is a big part of a freindship...

I have this belief..that its a live and let live thing...

And as long as two people are on the same page...and dont hurt each other...its their business


Be Happy...Life is short...:)

ps....Now...


Youre either going to get  of a lot of replies to this post trying to tell you, what you should, or should not be doing.....or everyones going to
run like hell....lol

Have a nice day....:)


-- Edited by Phil at 11:58, 2007-06-12

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Uhm. Well. Okay, I"m trying to remember......LOL, I read this and thought okay, Experience--yup. Strength= endurance. Hope=it means there's hope for me yet.

The only suggestion I have is enjoy it like we try to enjoy everything else--one day at a time. I wouldnt try to analyze it or complicate it. Expectations and projections are just a let down waiting to happen. Relish in what you have this moment. I know that you're alanon, so I try to see it from that point, and it's hard for me. But as an A, I know that as soon as anyone starts trying to pinpoint me or expecting anything from me, I feel trapped. That's just me, tho. Being intimate, especially in the beginning, whether it was physical or emotional, had to be a "lets just enjoy it for what it is now". When the word committment got tossed into the mix, I'd run like hell. I'd been "committed" for too long to alcohol, and all I wanted to do was live and experience life for a few years before I made any decisions of where I'd be this time next year. So, in trying to see things from an A perspective, I would have probably stayed longer in a few relationships  had expectations not been placed on me. I was a runner, and if things got too serious, jeez, I'd have my roller skates on and be whipping on down the road. I'd try just going easy, and like I said, take it and enjoy it for what it is just this moment in time, the rest will unfold the way it's supposed to. It always does. Just my opinion.  Chris

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The Big Book says we ask God to help us shape sound healthy future relationships...
Not selfish, hurtfull or motivated by some hidden agenda... I agree with Phil, as long as both idividuals are on the same page it's cool.

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Reminds me of


"I firmly believe lust and passionate sex are the basis and foundation stones of a healthy relationship" ~ Unknown

Unknown is an IDIOT!  weirdface

-- Edited by Doll at 14:51, 2007-06-13

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Doing without for more than a decade other than the occasional (and I mean, less than once a year) pay-for-play... it's interesting how unimportant it seems to be in the greater context of the relationship.

Probably got to do with middle age too but... neither my GF nor I are compelled to indulge in sex at every spare moment.  We're both ok with planning our activities and making time here and there for intimacy, but intimacy does not necessarily include sex.  We just enjoy being together, and that is probably the strongest aspect to this relationship - we aren't dependent on the roll-in-the-hay to solve all of our problems.

Whenever I fantasize and lust after this or that major superbabe, I remind myself that even IF the unlikely event occurred, I wouldn't really want to be around this person the other 23.5 hours a day - other than for the ego trip of being seen.  I have actually had quite a few female friends - just friends - who were clearly "out of my league" in the physical department.  It was always amusing to see the looks on peoples' faces... "SHE... is hugging HIM???"  LOL.

My relationship is now 4 months and counting... she pretty much knows all about me, including the fact that I am an alcoholic.  She has been to some open AA meetings, as well as some Alanon meetings.  We've done the whole meet-the-parents, meet-the-kids, meet-the-siblings and the steps and step-steps and halfsies and in-laws.... LOL.  One thing we have in common is complex extended families that required a cheat sheet to keep track of who's who.

Yeah, sex is fun too.  It also about wears me out!sleepy.gif

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I've found sometimes that great sex doesn't have as much to do with sex as it does with extenuating circumstances- for me it's being with someone special, for some people it's various things like cheating or getting away with something, running the risk of getting caught- any number of things.

I've also found that sex is generally overrated until the time that it isn't- great sex is great- but for the most part few and far between.

I've also found that a lot of times it's great at the beginning- like relationships generally are- and then maybe becomes a little ho-hum after a bit- like relationships generally are. I've always wondered what the longevity of things would be should one actually find someone they're just crazy about and vice-versa and the two fall in love and things just go on like the beginning forever. That would be absolutely epic, I think.

I've been thinking a bit about love and life and infatuation. I think its the not knowing that intrigues me a lot of the time. The pursuit- the wanting and not having, the imagining but not really knowing- everything perfect because reality doesnt have much of a hand in fantasy. Getting to have whatever it is youre after tends to eventually render the "magic" ineffective. In the light of day nearly all of us turn into pumpkins. After a while Ive quit hungering so for that magic I once felt and instead I just appreciate the anomaly of it lurking back there somewhere in my murky past.

These days I really enjoy the stupid stuff- turning off the radio and rolling down the windows and just driving and thinking and listening to nothing, stopping spur of the moment for a chili dog on the beach, small kids and puppies still playing fair, getting a tiny glimpse into the situation of some young couple that still cant get enough of each other, sunsets and sunrises, frank honesty with no ax to grind, waking up without a hangover, going to sleep because Im tired, Miles Davis and Coltrane (okay- those arent little things.)

Anyhow- just thought I'd better surface before someone sent out a search party. Ally- it sounds like you're on to something good. Aloha- Toby

-- Edited by TLH at 02:51, 2007-06-14

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"MORE! MORE! MORE!"   That is the rallying cry of us addicts.  More booze! More coffee! Another cigarettes!  More sex! More chocolate!  Yeah, do I remember. biggrin 

And then I remember the emphysema, headaches, hangover, diabetes, and pregnancy. I remember the things and people that gave me the pleasure, and then the pain.  The only good thing I still have of all of that, is my precious child.

My recovery has been wonderful for teaching me first things first, balance, and to think of what is all around best for each person and all the people, and not just the moment's endorphins.  My son's father and I were on the same page,,  'just call me angel of the morning', ya know?   But it still hurt a lot when we broke up and I was a single mother. Abortions are not an option with me.

Those are my memories.

love in recovery,

amanda

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smile What amanda2u saidsmile

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Denial is devious and we don't always say what we mean or mean what we say!

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