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Sometimes I like a little emotional feedback for mental (& perhaps ego stimulation). I've been allowing my stories & attitude to unfold in response to other people's posts & not starting very many of my own at all. Is it a faux pas to share of yourself in reply to another's post & then expect something personal in return from others? I don't feel I've been getting a lot back for what I percieve as giving a lot of myself. Are people sensing that I'm doing it for the wrong reasons that I haven't been conscious of or voicing my stories in the wrong way that puts you off connecting with me? Am I being selfish & should start my own posts for a genuine response? I've been feeling a little ignored & insignificant. That's gotta be Ego! But then honestly arn't we here to be acknowledged & accepted in some way so that we don't feel we're talking to oursleves!? I feel like I've been talking to myself. Have I been expecting too much? Is this an insecurity of illness!? There is a centre of selfishness within me. I AM early in recovery & I know the saying 'Stick with the Winners' but what about being here for the Newcomer? Are you taking my sobriety for granted or just letting me get on with it? Is people's lack of a response to me indifference or avoidance? I don't know. It's not good enough for me to feel I'm here for everybody else whilst I'm young in recovery & a little vulnerable (See - Self~Pity!) Please listen, assuming my own worth here seems like an arrogance to me right now. Can you please tell me where I'm going wrong? Am I, in fact, getting what I'm giving & making the same mistake of trying to communicate in a certain way thus not receiving what I'm deep down wanting? I know this is a bit of a big call & probably well in the arena of attention~seeking in an inappropriate way! Pretty sad to be doing it in cyber~space but I trust in your sobriety; your ES&H. I will have it out & honestly ask for what I want. Can I have some feedback that you even have an idea of who I am & where I'm coming from & the things I've said about where I'm at? (That sounds SO egotistical & probably a classic symptom of alcoholism!) I just want to know I matter & mean something to some of you. (I can't believe I've just said that lol) I just wanted to say something that has niggled me a while & I do want to do things right so forgive me if I'm being a little presumptious right now. I do want to get over myself though in the meantime my head has been saying a few things like 'I'm so full of illness & off the mark that people don't know where to begin with or are leaving me to my own devices while I develop in recovery through meetings'. This site does mean a lot to me & it does add a lot to my sobriety but not if I'm feeling ignored, even if tis only my own head telling me that. Sorry if I've offended anyone as there are some I have had a real personal touch from. Maybe I'm just being too personal. Maybe I shouldn't even be putting Xs at the end of my posts. Maybe I better laugh at myself & let it go! Sorry for jumping in & asking for a little extra care & nurture. I know I'm not special or different whilst at the same time We Are all special & different! Thanks for being here. I hope I get what I need if not anything more than that. Thanks for your time. I know you have been listening & following even when you don't say anything. Just like I can. Have a Gr8Day, Sober~Vibers.. Danielle x


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Hi Daniella.  My name is Daniel, and I am an alcoholic in North Dakota, USA.

I believe we are all sensitive folks.  I think that has something to do with causing some of our "ism's".  I know that I most certainly have to watch my tendency to be oversensitive to others.

I know that I frequently don't get a lot of response when I add a comment to someone else's post, and sometimes even when I put up a post of my own.  I try not to read anything into peoples' responses or lack thereof, as I have seen lots of folks misunderstand each other both here and out in the rest of my world. 

I do also worry that anything I post might be taken in a light which I have not intended.  I do sometimes believe that has happened also.  I do also know, however, that I have made some really marvelous friends on this board.

You seem to me to be a nice person.  Most of the folks you meet here and elsewhere, really are basically the same; all have good intentions.  Relax dear heart...go with the flow...smile 

I have found that I get more from reading what others have to say, and I come here and read a lot, including your comments.  I sometimes do that without ever responding.  I only hope that everyone doesn't think me a miser for not offering more reflections myself.

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Personally, if I start a post, and it spurs discussion, or if it compells another to share his/her thoughts/experiance, well, than Im pleased about that. The whole idea of a "forum" is discussion. How ever you share, when ever you share... sharing is what it's all about.
The more, the better. As far as starting your own post... well that takes a bit of practice... just like sharing at meetings. So just make an effort. Even if it's just a "good morning" post.
And ... as an after thought... you might just be overthinking this a little. I've been known to do that too... hehe...

-- Edited by miller2 at 21:33, 2007-06-10

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i value you, i like your posts, i like you too. sorry for not letting you know. forgive me?

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Danielle...
I am sorry you feel that way! I can only speak for myself but I think that you def bring alot to this board. Whether your responses are short and sweet or lengthy and inspritational... I do treasure them! I have never skipped over reading what you have to say... alot of times what you write are thought provoking (which is good). I would like to tell you now that I do appreciate you on this board... obviously more than you know! I do get inspired and motivated by reading what you write.... and not just because it is always written in purple! Maybe you can start some more posts like this and keep us updated on how YOU are doing!?! Danielle.. I am glad you are here with us and thankyou for letting us know how you feel!

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Gosh, Danielle, I ditto what Jamie said. I always read your posts.

Your feelings are valid whether we agree with them or not--if you feel that we arent responsive to your posts, then that is the way you feel.

I rarely begin a post myself. Very rarely. I'll respond on occassion, or post something I think others may like, but, like alot of us, I feel that if I write something it might not be interesting to anyone else. There are a million responses that buzz around my head, but do I get them into writing? Nope. Because my alcoholic thinking tells me that what I have to say isn't as important as what others have to say.

I finally gave myself a lecture, oh, about a year ago. It was all about listening to others. And if nobody responded to something I said, I had to remind myself, I'm writing this for the newcomer. I may say just one sentence that might hit home with someone. So even if nobody ever responds to me on the forum, just maybe I'll still help someone with what I express.

We are all a tad insecure about our worthiness, I believe. Being on the board isn't like being in a f2f, where we are making eye contact, and someone can hear the fluctuation in our voices, or the emotions. We're looking at words and putting our own slant to them as we read. That's so different.

I do value your posts and sharings. I always love to read what so many of you post, because your words are the words that help me stay sober.  I'm in a town that just recently began to have its own meeting! So I rely heavily on the board. You do put yourself out there for us. And it does help alot of us. I will try to be better at responding, but that means you have to read my often inane ramblings. Pretty soon you'll tell me to shut up. You're doing so well, and I should have said it sooner.....a big hug  Chris

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Hi Daniella,

I agree with Dan that we are all sensitive people on this board. I know that I definitely am. Whenever I post something here I always hope that somebody will get something from what I post.

I am so glad that you are here with us on this board and helping to make it the special place that it is. I look forward to your posts each day and I do value them. But, I haven't spent as much time on this board recently as I usually do. My boyfriend has been staying with me for the last six weeks and we have tried to spend as much time together as possible.

Please stay around and keep posting, won't you?

BTW, I have just spotted that you are in Liverpool my place of birth!!!

Have a super day,

Carol



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Danielle,

It is absolutely okay, in my book, to ask for affirmation smile i believe it is a sign of progress.......I now value myself and want to know i am valued and greater progress when we ask for these needs to be met wink I still struggle with this one and by not letting know my needs they cannot be met and can lead to resentment ( the enemy) I often fester doing all things domestic when i have plenty willing helpers who simply can't define what needs donebiggrin so i learn to ask, sometimes the answers are not the ones i want and i have to accept that thats okay too, i tend to take things personallyhmm As always balance is key i can do the thing when my voice goes eight octives higher and my mouth says fine thats okay don't worry as my stomach twists or i can do what the f**k do you mean blah blah blahbiggrin

I love what you posted and read your other posts too, you actually sound well and it is difficult to think of you as a newcomer. Glad to have you here and keep postingaww

-- Edited by alligot at 04:12, 2007-06-11

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What has happened on this board before is that when someone starts a new thread, and someone else posts a reply, and then a third person comments on the second person's reply, and then the second person replies to the reply, and a 4th person responds to the 2nd person's reply to the 3rd person's reply to the second person's reply to the original post the original person's topic gets lost, and the 2nd and 3rd person argue about which of their replies is better, and then there is a general arguement about the relevancy of any of the replies,, and then people take sides  and there is a big fight. 

So,,,  we have come to deal with these with guidelines that are more like at a real meeting,,,  with no 'cross talk'.  Everyone is entitled to put up their views in a reply, and people don't analyse their posts.  This is the main reason why you don't see much comment on posts you put up as replies to others,, because  the threads are not 'discussions' in a chat sense.  So I'm glad you got brave enough to start a thread of your own, so that you can get the attention that you need to your concern.   We don't all agree about things, and we've needed to come up with a way we can disagree without rivalry,,  each putting in our two cents adding to the resource pool of perspectives. 

we love you as one of us.

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Howdy Gal!!

Used to pour my heart on this board....and got a lot of sharing and support in return...

If one is hurting....we are all there for them, in whatever capacity we can be..without debate....or the "You should...You must...etc. stuff"

Some posts that are put on here...are simply take what you want, and leave the rest, and are not always responded to...

Ive had a couple of complaints lately about PMS...about a couple of people...telling others...what they should be doing....or not doing...and the Mods are aware of that....

If anyone is getting harrassed by PMS...please let us know, and we will confidentially do our best to intervene...

Other then that.....You are loved....:) and never alone...

And we are all in the same boat...

Keep rowing..:)




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You ARE an important part of this site and your recovery and feelings that go with it, no matter what they are, ARE important Danielle. Start a new thread when you really want/need some feedback. Glad you are here!!...Tim

-- Edited by timverton at 17:26, 2007-06-11

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Danielle,
For me personally alot of your posts (that come from Hazeldon) are profound......
meaning they tend to hit the heart......and I do mean HEART......of the matter. I read and
reread alot of the posts that come from the Big Book, Daily OM, and Hazeldon. They are
spiritual in nature. For me alot of them go back to the basics of my religious upbringing.
Usually no I do not reply because I'm considering the words very carefully. Meditating upon
the message they are giving/speaking to my heart. In other words, I'm taking that little
"inventory" of self. You, Phil, Wren, Carol and Doll, among many have inspired.
I read for a very long time. I felt as some say like the proverbially "lost soul". AH
was in an affair, drinking, my marriage was falling apart.........and I was a MESS. Overtime
however, I learned to cope, learned what I could control and what I couldn't. Alot of that
was due to the fact I read and reread and read some more the posts on this board.
You are an intrical part of that which has helped. And what you post DOES MATTER
though it may be unacknowledge by replies. I say thank you!!!! I hope you will keep
posting. Wanda



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Thank you all so much for your kind & honest words. I felt a little sheepish & a bit scared of what I was going to come home to! But I needn't have been concerned as you've all shined through & showed me the care's there even on a personal level. Your kindness & patience to my 'stampstrop!' has taught me the same & I won't need to do it again! Thankyou, I feel answered. Thankyou for fulfilling with one of my needs & helping me to learn I do deserve this & to have needs acknowledged. It has helped towards teaching me that honesty is good along with asking for help & inspired me in learning how to help myself with having these met in more improved ways for the future too. I feel connected & was somewhat embarressed to ask in the first place as I remember doing this particularly once or twice before with a bunch of people I used to hang out & 'party!' with in Wrexham in my early 20s. The difference being now that in sobriety & fellowship I am able to learn, accept & let go where appropriate to what others offer me or what I can take positively from a situation. This is one of the many meanings of sobriety for me. The messages are consistant & when I was drinking I couldn't help focusing on the negative & going round in circles. That has changed though I obviously will always be learning & having these positives reinforced & that's what you all do for me & I can see with each other. I've returned with a deep gratitude & I know where you're all coming from. I feel included & the unity is precious. Thanks for welcoming me here & allowing me the space to stay. I will! Love for you all in your journey, Danielle X!


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Danielle you have a way with words biggrin Glad you are here!

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