Alcoholics Anonymous

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

Hi All, It's been a while. Still holding on dearly to my sobriety, and I had an experience that I wanted to share. Over the weekend, I was at a birthday party when I found myself talking to an in-law who is a self-proclaimed "spiritual advisor" by education and trade. She is also an alcoholic....

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Why go to meetings?The first time we hear that Al-Anon is not about getting people clean and sober, we question the point of going. But what we soon learn is that the program is for us, not for the addict or alcoholic. We learn that we deserve peace.We'll think with greater clarity because Step One wil...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

A single idea can transform a person, a life, a business, a nation, a world.Anonymous

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

DIVORCE VS. MURDER A nice, calm and respectable lady went into the pharmacy, walked up to the pharmacist, looked straight into his eyes, and said, "I would like to buy some cyanide." The pharmacist asked, "Why in the world do you need cyanide?" The lady replied, "I need it...

Mike B. · Mike B.

March 26 "As AA grows, it is impossible to know everyone, but if I try to relate myself with just one other person, something will happen, something remarkable."

louannelee · louannelee

Hi, I'm new to this site. I was googling ADHD and the 4th and 5th Steps and found this site. I have ADHD, diagnosed before I got sober, I have 2 1/2 years sober and had a hard time getting my 4th step written out because it's hard for me to think in chronological order. My 1st "5th Step" didn't go so...

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

I talked to someone yesterday and she told me that she had a drinking problem and had decided to stop drinking. I invited her to my meeting last night and she couldn't go however, she said she really wanted to go tonight and said that she wanted to know I would be there and I said I would. Well, she just call...

whitewhineoh · whitewhineoh

Today is day 6 for me. I don't feel as awful as the first few days. I just feel weird and completely out of sorts. And my timing isn't great, but I guess there is never a "convenient" time to get sober. I am from NYC and started on Tuesday. Yesterday I had to fly to Arizona for five days for work...

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MIKE F.!!! BTY -- Edited by betterthanyesterday52 on Tuesday 25th of March 2014 10:33:59 AM

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

I found the prospect daunting, but somehow comforting, too, because the counselors insisted it could be done, and, after all, many of them were recovering alcoholics themselves. Craig Fergusen BTY

Philipld · Philipld

Flynn · Flynn

God; The REAL Interview.A.A.; Hey God!!! I reeeally wanna say that I'm soooo grateful to be sober and a member of Alcoholics Anonymous ...God; Yeah yeah right. Now if you will listen...I mean REALLY listen for a moment I'm going to tell you why this is happening.First of all you guys are a sounding-boa...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Live daringly, boldly, fearlessly, embrace the challenges, so that you may feel the exhilaration of victory.Unknown

Philipld · Philipld

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

"It is one of the most beautiful compensations of this life, that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself." Ralph Waldo Emerson (I think this is a good example of what AA teaches us about how to maintain our sobriety.) BTY

Fyne Spirit · Fyne Spirit

Hi all, Ive been away sailing and out of range for a while which is why I haven't been around. My travels have taken me to the port of Bluff, right at the bottom of the South Island of New Zealand, famous for its oysters, the best in the world. I don't buy them anymore. Much as I love them, they have just got too...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

I feel best about having helped others believe in themselves. --Bud Sherman Encouragement is one of the greatest gifts we can give one another. Chances are we can all remember someone who encouraged us many years ago. Perhaps a teacher or an employer took a special interest in us, and we have never for...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Weekly VerseYou will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands. Isaiah 55:12Weekly QuoteAttitude is a little thing that makes a big difference. Winston ChurchillWeekly ThoughtBad habits are e...

Mike D · Mike D

When my youngest son Patrick was born, I had been sober in A.A. for several years. When he was little, we usually played board games together, and as he became more able to learn, I taught him how to play Chess. One of the rules of play in Chess is that, once you've made your move and have removed your fing...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

I'm glad y'all found us ... Most all of us here have been sober 'today' ... we did not find it necessary to drink, or drug, for today ... we're here to support each other within the family that's AA ... some of us have days, months, and even years of living the AA 'way of life' ... most of us have been where you...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Here are six terrific truths about time:First: Nobody can manage time. But you can manage those things that take up your time.Second: Time is expensive. As a matter of fact, 80 percent of our day is spent on those things or those people that only bring us two percent of our results.Third: Time is per...

John · John

Welcome to Miracles In Progress 12 Step Recovery Forums! Twelve Step recovery programs can be a life sustaining substance to many people, just as water is.You can get a cup full or a barrel full. There is plenty here to take as much as you want or need.If you leave too quickly and don't get enough, you are...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Truth is the only safe ground to stand upon.Elizabeth Cady Stanton

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

"Alcoholism is the only disease that tells you you're alright." 12stepsource.com BTY

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

I want somehow to tell the story of how the dispossessed become possessed of their own history without losing sight, without forgetting the meaning or the nature of their journey. -Sherley Anne Williams To use the past without being controlled by it that is our responsibility to history. Because t...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

One today is worth two tomorrows.Benjamin Franklin

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

"Wanna find out who your true friends are? Get sober" -unknown- (Since I have been sober I actually have friends now and more than I could have ever imagined. I chased away the few friends I had when I was drinking.) I am grateful for the friends I have on this board and you guys! BTY

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you. F. Scott Fitzgerald BTY

Philipld · Philipld

20. You have awakened with an overwelming feeling that you should go back and apologize... but you don't remember where. 19. The Tipsy Taxi service has banned you from all its vehicles. 18. You refer to your favorite song only by its jukebox selection numbers, G-12. 17. People consider your spouse a...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

When we do for other people what they should do for themselves, we both stay stuck.Perhaps it's human nature to grow and change only when we have to. Unrelenting pain can serve as a motivator. Sometimes ultimatums are effective too. But making excuses for others or taking over their responsibilitie...

gonee · gonee

AA and Alanon is not a social club. It's a hospital for sick people. We must continue to express our gratitude by helping others. If we cannot help, let someone else do it. We must never forget what it was like, what happened and what it is like now. After 25 sober years my heart is still longing for the God w...

Butterfinger · Butterfinger

I am a very private person who values his personal space. In the past I have had problems with the in-person demands of real world sponsors. They've been wonderful people with the best intentions but I've always found myself pulling away when beginning to get close to them. It's my hope that someone he...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

I heard this this a.m. and simply had to post for others who may want to take a 3 minute break and enjoy ... it's one of my favorites ... Love Y'all and God Bless, Pappy -- Edited by Pythonpappy on Wednesday 5th of March 2014 11:20:36 AM

Philipld · Philipld

Whoo Hoo!

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The balanced man is he whose thoughts soar on the wings of vision but whose feet remain on the rocks of reality.J. A. Rosenkranz

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

At first, I resented it when my friends in the program told me to be God or let God. -- Myrna K. Who consciously decided to play God? Not me. Not you. But many of us have a terrible time letting God run the world. No matter how much we resolve not to, we take responsibility for things we can't control. That...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

We cannot change yesterday. We can only make the most of today, and look with hope toward tomorrow.Unknown

Zoomtopz · Zoomtopz

When I got here I HAD to - Learn to listen & listen to learn. Listen , like only the dying can. Listen , or , thy tongue . Will keep you deaf. A Closed mouth , gathers no feet. Alcohol preserves most things , dignity isn't one of them Hearing Is a gift , listening an art. At the end of a game , the queen & p...

maire rua · maire rua

I am laid low with the flu and really it is the only really bad bout of ill health I have had since my HP got me sober 4 years ago. It is giving me time to reflect and slow down and realise I can be done without, easily. I have to cancel all my appointments as I believe in self care today and the little things I was w...

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

I kept waiting for something bigger, something more profound, something that I could hitch myself to and be carried away once and for all to the heaven-on-earth that I deserved. I kept struggling for control, which was really a demand for everything I wanted--peace, happiness, love, perfection--...

Philipld · Philipld

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

I remember someone knocking on our door years ago. It was a man who my dad used to refer to as "one of the town drunks". I remember him being very loud and obnoxious and my dad's voice steadily growing from calm to angry. Then I heard a door slam and the man was left staring at a closed door. My dad c...

Mike B. · Mike B.

March 20 "If you haven't been to a meeting for a while, come, and add to the mix ... we need you. Come for yourself, come for the Fellowship, come to celebrate sobriety, and come for the alcoholic who still suffers."

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Communicating...armed to deal with whatever comesOne couple never told each other anything negative if they could avoid it. They always protected each other from bad news. Their neighbors, however, were not that careful about what they said. They had a positive attitude but they believed that re...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The will to win the will to achieve goes dry and arid without continuous renewal.Vince Lombardi

Philipld · Philipld

Have a Greeeaaat Day!!

Brandy · Brandy

I am new to this group and the road to sobriety in general-this is day 1. I have been trying on my own and have failed so I am starting to reach out. I am not ready to go to a local meeting yet. I am a 37 year old single mom of 3 wonderful children. I have been in a serious relationship with a great man for the pa...

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

"Don't Drink"

BTY

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Our brightest blazes are commonly kindled by unexpected sparks.Samuel Johnson

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

"Sober up and you see and hear everything you'd been able to avoid hearing before." Sammy Davis, Jr. BTY

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	Today's Gift - 3/25 (Preview) Why go to meetings?The first time we hear that Al-Anon is not about getting people clean and sober, we question the point of going. But what we soon learn is that the program is for us, not for the addict or alcoholic. We learn that we deserve peace.We'll think with greater clarity because Step One wil...	Pythonpappy	1	248	Mar 26, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Sunrise Quote - 3/25 (Preview) A single idea can transform a person, a life, a business, a nation, a world.Anonymous	Pythonpappy	7	254	Mar 26, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
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	Grapevine (Preview) March 26 "As AA grows, it is impossible to know everyone, but if I try to relate myself with just one other person, something will happen, something remarkable."	Mike B.	1	212	Mar 26, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	4th and 5th Steps with ADHD (Preview) Hi, I'm new to this site. I was googling ADHD and the 4th and 5th Steps and found this site. I have ADHD, diagnosed before I got sober, I have 2 1/2 years sober and had a hard time getting my 4th step written out because it's hard for me to think in chronological order. My 1st "5th Step" didn't go so...	louannelee	12	594	Mar 26, 2014 by Stepchild
	Pretty Sad But Not For Myself This Time (Preview) I talked to someone yesterday and she told me that she had a drinking problem and had decided to stop drinking. I invited her to my meeting last night and she couldn't go however, she said she really wanted to go tonight and said that she wanted to know I would be there and I said I would. Well, she just call...	betterthanyesterday52	6	565	Mar 26, 2014 by Jerry F
	Day 6 and away from home (Preview) Today is day 6 for me. I don't feel as awful as the first few days. I just feel weird and completely out of sorts. And my timing isn't great, but I guess there is never a "convenient" time to get sober. I am from NYC and started on Tuesday. Yesterday I had to fly to Arizona for five days for work...	whitewhineoh	19	593	Mar 25, 2014 by pinkchip
	Happy Birthday Mike F. (Preview) HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MIKE F.!!! BTY -- Edited by betterthanyesterday52 on Tuesday 25th of March 2014 10:33:59 AM	betterthanyesterday52	4	391	Mar 25, 2014 by Stepchild
	Sober Quote for the Day (Preview) I found the prospect daunting, but somehow comforting, too, because the counselors insisted it could be done, and, after all, many of them were recovering alcoholics themselves. Craig Fergusen BTY	betterthanyesterday52	0	252	Mar 25, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	When One Door Closes (Preview)	Philipld	16	456	Mar 25, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	God and A.A.; The REAL Interview (Preview) God; The REAL Interview.A.A.; Hey God!!! I reeeally wanna say that I'm soooo grateful to be sober and a member of Alcoholics Anonymous ...God; Yeah yeah right. Now if you will listen...I mean REALLY listen for a moment I'm going to tell you why this is happening.First of all you guys are a sounding-boa...	Flynn	7	476	Mar 24, 2014 by Stepchild
	Sunrise Quote - 3/24 (Preview) Live daringly, boldly, fearlessly, embrace the challenges, so that you may feel the exhilaration of victory.Unknown	Pythonpappy	4	237	Mar 24, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Ever feel Like Youre Just Not Part Of The Herd? (Preview)	Philipld	5	440	Mar 24, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sober Quote for the Day (Preview) "It is one of the most beautiful compensations of this life, that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself." Ralph Waldo Emerson (I think this is a good example of what AA teaches us about how to maintain our sobriety.) BTY	betterthanyesterday52	2	248	Mar 24, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Step Nine Has Hidden Benefits (Preview) Hi all, Ive been away sailing and out of range for a while which is why I haven't been around. My travels have taken me to the port of Bluff, right at the bottom of the South Island of New Zealand, famous for its oysters, the best in the world. I don't buy them anymore. Much as I love them, they have just got too...	Fyne Spirit	3	354	Mar 24, 2014 by RubyTues
	Today's Gift - 3/24 (Preview) I feel best about having helped others believe in themselves. --Bud Sherman Encouragement is one of the greatest gifts we can give one another. Chances are we can all remember someone who encouraged us many years ago. Perhaps a teacher or an employer took a special interest in us, and we have never for...	Pythonpappy	0	220	Mar 24, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Weekly Thought --- (religious concept) (Preview) Weekly VerseYou will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands. Isaiah 55:12Weekly QuoteAttitude is a little thing that makes a big difference. Winston ChurchillWeekly ThoughtBad habits are e...	Pythonpappy	5	263	Mar 24, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	"Daddy...can I have do-overs?" (Preview) When my youngest son Patrick was born, I had been sober in A.A. for several years. When he was little, we usually played board games together, and as he became more able to learn, I taught him how to play Chess. One of the rules of play in Chess is that, once you've made your move and have removed your fing...	Mike D	4	263	Mar 24, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Welcome to MIP Marley and Social Butterfly (Preview) I'm glad y'all found us ... Most all of us here have been sober 'today' ... we did not find it necessary to drink, or drug, for today ... we're here to support each other within the family that's AA ... some of us have days, months, and even years of living the AA 'way of life' ... most of us have been where you...	Pythonpappy	0	235	Mar 23, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Time (Preview) Here are six terrific truths about time:First: Nobody can manage time. But you can manage those things that take up your time.Second: Time is expensive. As a matter of fact, 80 percent of our day is spent on those things or those people that only bring us two percent of our results.Third: Time is per...	Pythonpappy	3	279	Mar 23, 2014 by marley
	Recovery is like a vast supply of water.... (Preview) *Welcome to Miracles In Progress 12 Step Recovery Forums!* *Twelve Step recovery programs can be a life sustaining substance to many people, just as water is.You can get a cup full or a barrel full. There is plenty here to take as much as you want or need.****If you leave too quickly and don't get enough, you are...*	John	3	307	Mar 23, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 3/23 (Preview) Truth is the only safe ground to stand upon.Elizabeth Cady Stanton	Pythonpappy	5	284	Mar 23, 2014 by Philipld
	Sober Quote for the Day (Preview) "Alcoholism is the only disease that tells you you're alright." 12stepsource.com BTY	betterthanyesterday52	3	208	Mar 23, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Today's Gift - 3/23 (Preview) I want somehow to tell the story of how the dispossessed become possessed of their own history without losing sight, without forgetting the meaning or the nature of their journey. -Sherley Anne Williams To use the past without being controlled by it that is our responsibility to history. Because t...	Pythonpappy	2	210	Mar 23, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 3/22 (Preview) One today is worth two tomorrows.Benjamin Franklin	Pythonpappy	4	268	Mar 23, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sober Quote for the Day (Preview) "Wanna find out who your true friends are? Get sober" -unknown- (Since I have been sober I actually have friends now and more than I could have ever imagined. I chased away the few friends I had when I was drinking.) I am grateful for the friends I have on this board and you guys! BTY	betterthanyesterday52	2	285	Mar 22, 2014 by Mike D
	Sobering Quote for the Day (Preview) First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you. F. Scott Fitzgerald BTY	betterthanyesterday52	4	333	Mar 22, 2014 by Philipld
	You MIGHT BE an alcoholic IF... (Preview) 20. You have awakened with an overwelming feeling that you should go back and apologize... but you don't remember where. 19. The Tipsy Taxi service has banned you from all its vehicles. 18. You refer to your favorite song only by its jukebox selection numbers, G-12. 17. People consider your spouse a...	Philipld	4	285	Mar 22, 2014 by Philipld
	Today's Gift - 3/22 (Preview) When we do for other people what they should do for themselves, we both stay stuck.Perhaps it's human nature to grow and change only when we have to. Unrelenting pain can serve as a motivator. Sometimes ultimatums are effective too. But making excuses for others or taking over their responsibilitie...	Pythonpappy	2	246	Mar 22, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Our fellowship. (Preview) AA and Alanon is not a social club. It's a hospital for sick people. We must continue to express our gratitude by helping others. If we cannot help, let someone else do it. We must never forget what it was like, what happened and what it is like now. After 25 sober years my heart is still longing for the God w...	gonee	4	268	Mar 22, 2014 by Mike D
	Who would like to be my e-sponsor? (Preview) I am a very private person who values his personal space. In the past I have had problems with the in-person demands of real world sponsors. They've been wonderful people with the best intentions but I've always found myself pulling away when beginning to get close to them. It's my hope that someone he...	Butterfinger	23	700	Mar 22, 2014 by StPeteDean
	For Natasha, ... sung by Natasha B... (Preview) I heard this this a.m. and simply had to post for others who may want to take a 3 minute break and enjoy ... it's one of my favorites ... Love Y'all and God Bless, Pappy -- Edited by Pythonpappy on Wednesday 5th of March 2014 11:20:36 AM	Pythonpappy	2	481	Mar 22, 2014 by StPeteDean
	A Sign Of Spring In Ontario Canada (Preview) Whoo Hoo!	Philipld	11	402	Mar 21, 2014 by Philipld
	Sunrise Quote - 3/20 (Preview) The balanced man is he whose thoughts soar on the wings of vision but whose feet remain on the rocks of reality.J. A. Rosenkranz	Pythonpappy	2	262	Mar 21, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Today's Gift - 3/21 (Preview) At first, I resented it when my friends in the program told me to be God or let God. -- Myrna K. Who consciously decided to play God? Not me. Not you. But many of us have a terrible time letting God run the world. No matter how much we resolve not to, we take responsibility for things we can't control. That...	Pythonpappy	1	164	Mar 21, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Sunrise Quote - 3/21 (Preview) We cannot change yesterday. We can only make the most of today, and look with hope toward tomorrow.Unknown	Pythonpappy	1	212	Mar 21, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Heard @ Meetings (Preview) When I got here I HAD to - Learn to listen & listen to learn. Listen , like only the dying can. Listen , or , thy tongue . Will keep you deaf. A Closed mouth , gathers no feet. Alcohol preserves most things , dignity isn't one of them Hearing Is a gift , listening an art. At the end of a game , the queen & p...	Zoomtopz	3	238	Mar 21, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	the flu (Preview) I am laid low with the flu and really it is the only really bad bout of ill health I have had since my HP got me sober 4 years ago. It is giving me time to reflect and slow down and realise I can be done without, easily. I have to cancel all my appointments as I believe in self care today and the little things I was w...	maire rua	9	478	Mar 20, 2014 by Mike D
	Sober Quote for the Day (Preview) I kept waiting for something bigger, something more profound, something that I could hitch myself to and be carried away once and for all to the heaven-on-earth that I deserved. I kept struggling for control, which was really a demand for everything I wanted--peace, happiness, love, perfection--...	betterthanyesterday52	3	382	Mar 20, 2014 by Mike D
	Self Pity (Preview)	Philipld	6	314	Mar 20, 2014 by Mike D
	The Doors To An AA Meeting (Preview) I remember someone knocking on our door years ago. It was a man who my dad used to refer to as "one of the town drunks". I remember him being very loud and obnoxious and my dad's voice steadily growing from calm to angry. Then I heard a door slam and the man was left staring at a closed door. My dad c...	betterthanyesterday52	5	569	Mar 20, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Grapevine (Preview) March 20 "If you haven't been to a meeting for a while, come, and add to the mix ... we need you. Come for yourself, come for the Fellowship, come to celebrate sobriety, and come for the alcoholic who still suffers."	Mike B.	1	231	Mar 20, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 3/20 (Preview) Communicating...armed to deal with whatever comesOne couple never told each other anything negative if they could avoid it. They always protected each other from bad news. Their neighbors, however, were not that careful about what they said. They had a positive attitude but they believed that re...	Pythonpappy	0	204	Mar 20, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 3/19 (Preview) The will to win the will to achieve goes dry and arid without continuous renewal.Vince Lombardi	Pythonpappy	2	223	Mar 19, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Attitude (Preview) Have a Greeeaaat Day!!	Philipld	4	588	Mar 19, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	New Road (Preview) I am new to this group and the road to sobriety in general-this is day 1. I have been trying on my own and have failed so I am starting to reach out. I am not ready to go to a local meeting yet. I am a 37 year old single mom of 3 wonderful children. I have been in a serious relationship with a great man for the pa...	Brandy	14	478	Mar 19, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Sober Quote for the Day (Preview) "Don't Drink" BTY	betterthanyesterday52	1	208	Mar 19, 2014 by Philipld
	Sunrise Quote - 3/18 (Preview) Our brightest blazes are commonly kindled by unexpected sparks.Samuel Johnson	Pythonpappy	5	297	Mar 19, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
	Sobriety Quote for the Day (Preview) "Sober up and you see and hear everything you'd been able to avoid hearing before." Sammy Davis, Jr. BTY	betterthanyesterday52	5	1830	Mar 19, 2014 by betterthanyesterday52
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