Alcoholics Anonymous

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You can feel only your own feelings, not another person's.Having empathy for those we love, and being able to share their joys and sorrows, is part of our nature as warm, caring human beings. Taken to an extreme, however, too much empathy can mean that we lose our boundaries as emotionally separate in...

leavetherest · leavetherest

https://www.thersa.org/discover/publications-and-articles/rsa-blogs/2012/02/seriously-why-do-we-drink-a...

MarcLacroix · MarcLacroix

How I Came To Believe: That's how I came to believe........... now onward to step 4. Hope this helps someone, somewhere. Peace, Scott S. aka Dac. -- Edited by MarcLacroix on Sunday 1st of May 2016 01:13:34 PM

leavetherest · leavetherest

....well for now. Big blowup here on the Ponderosa. No details...(you're welcome)....just by myself and that crappy urge to drink came over me. I almost gave into it. I started to look for my shoes and then I just stopped...and thought about things for a bit and prayed. I thought I don't have to do ANYTH...

MarcLacroix · MarcLacroix

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The person who is bored in the modern world shows that he is in no full sense a member of it. --Brand BlanshardEnthusiasm doesn't just happen to us. It's an attitude that is either fostered or hindered by our decisions about what we'll bring to our experiences from the most mundane to the momentous. Thi...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You have absolute control over but one thing, and that is your thoughts. This is the most significant and inspiring of all facts known to man! It reflects man's divine nature. ~Napleon Hill

leavetherest · leavetherest

I have been hearing some of you share about the spiritual experience and how important it is. I just read the "Spiritual Experience" in the back of the Big Book. I was (and maybe still am) very confused......I thought once we have that Spiritual Awakening--which I really and truly thought I did awhi...

leavetherest · leavetherest

I just realized today that even though I was sober for awhile, I think I was a Dry Drunk. I read this on google..... "Dry Drunk Syndrome Defined. The term dry drunk is believed to originate from 12 Step recovery groups. It is used to describe those who no longer drink alcohol but in many ways behave like th...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You just can't beat the person who never gives up. ~Babe Ruth

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

I want to change things. I want to see things happen. I don't want just to talk about them. --John Kenneth Galbraith Newcomer I feel as if I should be doing so much more than just staying in recovery and going to meetings. And yet, when I have free time, I'm not accomplishing much these days. I go to a meeti...

MarcLacroix · MarcLacroix

About ten years ago I purchased a refurbished DoubleWide in a gated community. Paid cash money for it so it is mine and I have the title. All was fine until about Two years ago... My MicroWave and My Refrigerator both died. Then came a leak in my bathroom wall so my floor is getting soaked. I walk on water so...

leavetherest · leavetherest

Please pray for me...to whatever Higher Power you have. Here I have been trying to help other alcoholics...and cannot "get" this thing myself. I found out my (as I have referred to him in past postings....my "guyfriend" but really has been my "boyfriend"...for the last 8 years) has been cheating on m...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

April 25, 2016Quote of the Week"If I'm not the problem, then there is no solution." When I came into the program, I had a lot of problems and most of them were your fault. My girlfriend didn't understand me; my boss didn't appreciate me; the police didn't like it when I drove after just a few drinks (I w...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Trust An attitude of helpful expectancy can serve me very well today. My Higher Power has my day in His hands. Whatever happens, it will go most smoothly, and I will feel best about myself, if I am open to what the day brings, and at peace with whatever it holds for me. I can give my best if I do not get bogged...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You need to be aware of what others are doing, applaud their efforts, acknowledge their successes, and encourage them in their pursuits. When we all help one another, everybody wins. ~Jim Stovall

leavetherest · leavetherest

"The alcoholic may say to himself in the most casual way, "It won't burn me this time, so here's how!" Or perhaps he doesn't think at all. How often have some of us begun to drink in this nonchalant way, and after the third or fourth, pounded on the bar and said to ourselves, "For God's sake, how did I ever ge...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

My best friend is the one who brings out the best in me. --Henry FordTo be a friend involves risk. Friends confront each other when it's needed, but they do it out of love and with compassion. All of us need a friend who will tell us when we are acting out of line, when we are "not able to see the forest for the t...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Adversity is a fact of life. It can't be controlled. What we can control is how we react to it. ~Unknown, Source on Adversity

ForFamily · ForFamily

Hi. ForFamily is my pseudo name and I'm an alcoholic. I don't normally frequent online forums. But have read many encouraging posts today. Thank you all for sharing. If I'm not traveling for work, I'm spending a good amount of time at the computer. I can already feel I'm going to need some po...

John · John

We are charged 16.95 per month for this board, and when it goes into any arrears, they start to tinker with things some to give us a wake up call. Right now we are 39.00 in arrears. Right now they have it where you can't tell new post or replies from already read ones. Because of the highlighting code on t...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it. ~Margaret Thatcher

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Each day is a new start. Each moment is a beginning.We do not have to wait until Monday to get back on the program or clean a closet or tackle a difficult report. We do not have to wait until tomorrow morning, either. Now is the moment to stop, to make a phone call, to begin whatever project we have been p...

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

Watched a relative go through the nightmare of craving alcohol today. I saw him itching for it this morning and look immensely relieved when he felt like it was okay to grab a beer at noon. And then have numerous glasses of wine in the afternoon. And then get upset for a moment when we proposed going to din...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Possibilities and miracles are one and the same. --AnonymousMany of us have seen happiness as a goal we couldn't find. When we were children, we were taught that "life is a hard row to hoe." We carried that over into our adult lives.Seize the day - We let too many of our days just slide by. None of those hou...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

sorbsauce · sorbsauce

Started a new thread because the last one was so long. I need to find new friends that will support sobriety instead of threatening it. The issue is that so far, from the meetings I've been to were all people in their upper 30's or higher. I am only 19.

Lisa in Iowa · Lisa in Iowa

We're putting on a 12th Step workshop in my area later this month. As many of you know, good ole fashioned 12th step calls have changed (and not always for the better IMHO). Question - If you were attending, what are the top three things about working with others that you would want covered in the worksh...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Living new livesIf we thank our Higher Power each day for the problems in our lives, we will find that we can live and cope with them. And if it is our Higher Power's will, our problems will be transformed in ways we cannot comprehend. We don't fully understand our lives.If we become willing to let our Hig...

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

Last night I had a vivid drinking dream. The basic premise was that I was spending the afternoon with a friend and ended up drinking so much that I blacked out for hours of conversation and was trying to remember what happened when I sobered up. The panic. The fear. The shame. The raw guilt that eats at you...

cindy · cindy

this has always been my favorite topic. so here is my most recent....my ex and i have been broke-up about a year and i miss him, so doing the grief thing. i was sitting at the computer a few nights ago crying, thinking about him when suddenly a Bat flew in! the cats went crazy! i am not afraid of creatures and...

Doll · Doll

Hi all. It's been a while, quite a while in fact. Hoping some of you who shared your es&h with me are still here. I wouldn't be sober if it weren't for you! I started to go back and re-read some of my posts but decided against it until later (I have to admit I'm a little scared, I was such a BYOTCH 8 years ag...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

What is strength without a double share of wisdom? Vast, unwieldy, burdensome proudly secure, yet liable to fall. --John MiltonWhat do we mean when we say someone is strong? That they have big muscles? Can endure anything without getting tired, let alone giving up? Do strong people never bend? Neve...

Mike D4 · Mike D4

I have two tickets to the NOFX concert this Saturday (04/23/2016) at Mavericks in Jacksonville, FL. I am new (back) to the program and would like to attend the show, however, I would feel more comfortable if I went with another recovering alcoholic. I will be traveling from Savannah, GA. If anyone is i...

MarcLacroix · MarcLacroix

*** Begin Rant *** In March of 1996, I quit drinking. About nine months later I had a stroke which nearly killed me. After getting out of the hospital Kim and I divorced. So now I live alone on Social Security Disability and I know what it feels like to live in fear some days. Even at 20 years sober there are d...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us... --Marcel ProustMany of us have known people new to recovery who enter a Twelve Step program only to encounter an enormous crisis or difficulty. It's tempting at that point to question th...

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

Hi everyone. It has, once again, been a long time. A lot has changed since I was here last. Probably the most significant is that I have a new son, and he is AWESOME. He is healthy and happy, and my wife and I are crazy about him. I want him to be raised by a father who, unlike my own, really has his stuff togethe...

JerryF · JerryF

Permalink Reply Quote More Edit PostDelete Post ...not so much for me and for a program sister who is going to be going thru yet another open heart surgery which comes with a lack of confidence from her surgeons. Her name is Robin and she has triple decades of sobriety. She is a mutuall...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

April 18, 2016Quote of the Week"When I get the flu, I forget I was ever healthy." I've heard that the "ism" in alcoholism can stand for many things, but my favorite is "incredibly short memory." In sobriety, this presents a double problem. First, having a disease that is constantly telling me I don...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Watching a child acquire language, I realize, again, that naming things demystifies them. --Mary CaseySharing with another our fears of starting a new job, ending a relationship, getting into therapy, or even joining a social club will help us keep the fear in perspective. Fears that go undiscuss...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You must take personal responsibility. You cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind, but you can change yourself. That is something you have charge of. ~Jim Rohn

chelle30 · chelle30

I have tried to get onto these online meetings,but no success.Does anyone know how you can join them?

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

You need to feel good about yourself, the motivation has to come from within. You have nobody to fall back on except yourself. ~Dana Hill

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	Today's Gift 4/28 (Preview) You can feel only your own feelings, not another person's.Having empathy for those we love, and being able to share their joys and sorrows, is part of our nature as warm, caring human beings. Taken to an extreme, however, too much empathy can mean that we lose our boundaries as emotionally separate in...	Pythonpappy	0	446	Apr 28, 2016 by Pythonpappy
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	Fought off the urge... (Preview) ....well for now. Big blowup here on the Ponderosa. No details...(you're welcome)....just by myself and that crappy urge to drink came over me. I almost gave into it. I started to look for my shoes and then I just stopped...and thought about things for a bit and prayed. I thought I don't have to do ANYTH...	leavetherest	3	534	Apr 27, 2016 by leavetherest
	Resentment (Preview)	MarcLacroix	1	529	Apr 27, 2016 by Pythonpappy
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	Today's Gift 4/27 (Preview) The person who is bored in the modern world shows that he is in no full sense a member of it. --Brand BlanshardEnthusiasm doesn't just happen to us. It's an attitude that is either fostered or hindered by our decisions about what we'll bring to our experiences from the most mundane to the momentous. Thi...	Pythonpappy	0	408	Apr 27, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote 4/27 (Preview) You have absolute control over but one thing, and that is your thoughts. This is the most significant and inspiring of all facts known to man! It reflects man's divine nature. ~Napleon Hill	Pythonpappy	0	375	Apr 27, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	I'm Confused (Preview) I have been hearing some of you share about the spiritual experience and how important it is. I just read the "Spiritual Experience" in the back of the Big Book. I was (and maybe still am) very confused......I thought once we have that Spiritual Awakening--which I really and truly thought I did awhi...	leavetherest	14	924	Apr 27, 2016 by MarcLacroix
	Dry Drunk Behavior (Preview) I just realized today that even though I was sober for awhile, I think I was a Dry Drunk. I read this on google..... "Dry Drunk Syndrome Defined. The term dry drunk is believed to originate from 12 Step recovery groups. It is used to describe those who no longer drink alcohol but in many ways behave like th...	leavetherest	2	717	Apr 26, 2016 by leavetherest
	Simple Reminder 4/26 (Preview)	Pythonpappy	0	464	Apr 26, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote 4/26 (Preview) You just can't beat the person who never gives up. ~Babe Ruth	Pythonpappy	0	452	Apr 26, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/26 (Preview) I want to change things. I want to see things happen. I don't want just to talk about them. --John Kenneth Galbraith Newcomer I feel as if I should be doing so much more than just staying in recovery and going to meetings. And yet, when I have free time, I'm not accomplishing much these days. I go to a meeti...	Pythonpappy	0	424	Apr 26, 2016 by Pythonpappy
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	Please (Preview) Please pray for me...to whatever Higher Power you have. Here I have been trying to help other alcoholics...and cannot "get" this thing myself. I found out my (as I have referred to him in past postings....my "guyfriend" but really has been my "boyfriend"...for the last 8 years) has been cheating on m...	leavetherest	34	1212	Apr 25, 2016 by leavetherest
	Wisdom of the Rooms (Preview) April 25, 2016Quote of the Week"If I'm not the problem, then there is no solution." When I came into the program, I had a lot of problems and most of them were your fault. My girlfriend didn't understand me; my boss didn't appreciate me; the police didn't like it when I drove after just a few drinks (I w...	Pythonpappy	0	469	Apr 25, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/25 (Preview) Trust An attitude of helpful expectancy can serve me very well today. My Higher Power has my day in His hands. Whatever happens, it will go most smoothly, and I will feel best about myself, if I am open to what the day brings, and at peace with whatever it holds for me. I can give my best if I do not get bogged...	Pythonpappy	0	376	Apr 25, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote 4/25 (Preview) You need to be aware of what others are doing, applaud their efforts, acknowledge their successes, and encourage them in their pursuits. When we all help one another, everybody wins. ~Jim Stovall	Pythonpappy	0	461	Apr 25, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	BB excerpt (Preview) "The alcoholic may say to himself in the most casual way, "It won't burn me this time, so here's how!" Or perhaps he doesn't think at all. How often have some of us begun to drink in this nonchalant way, and after the third or fourth, pounded on the bar and said to ourselves, "For God's sake, how did I ever ge...	leavetherest	8	550	Apr 25, 2016 by leavetherest
	Today's Gift 4/24 (Preview) My best friend is the one who brings out the best in me. --Henry FordTo be a friend involves risk. Friends confront each other when it's needed, but they do it out of love and with compassion. All of us need a friend who will tell us when we are acting out of line, when we are "not able to see the forest for the t...	Pythonpappy	0	463	Apr 24, 2016 by Pythonpappy
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	Sunrise Quote 4/24 (Preview) Adversity is a fact of life. It can't be controlled. What we can control is how we react to it. ~Unknown, Source on Adversity	Pythonpappy	0	433	Apr 24, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Introducing Myself (Preview) Hi. ForFamily is my pseudo name and I'm an alcoholic. I don't normally frequent online forums. But have read many encouraging posts today. Thank you all for sharing. If I'm not traveling for work, I'm spending a good amount of time at the computer. I can already feel I'm going to need some po...	ForFamily	17	1182	Apr 23, 2016 by sorbsauce
	Problems with Board... (Preview) We are charged 16.95 per month for this board, and when it goes into any arrears, they start to tinker with things some to give us a wake up call. Right now we are 39.00 in arrears. Right now they have it where you can't tell new post or replies from already read ones. Because of the highlighting code on t...	John	4	737	Apr 23, 2016 by leavetherest
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it. ~Margaret Thatcher	Pythonpappy	0	433	Apr 23, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Simple Reminder 4/23 (Preview)	Pythonpappy	0	458	Apr 23, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/23 (Preview) Each day is a new start. Each moment is a beginning.We do not have to wait until Monday to get back on the program or clean a closet or tackle a difficult report. We do not have to wait until tomorrow morning, either. Now is the moment to stop, to make a phone call, to begin whatever project we have been p...	Pythonpappy	0	454	Apr 23, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Craving (Preview) Watched a relative go through the nightmare of craving alcohol today. I saw him itching for it this morning and look immensely relieved when he felt like it was okay to grab a beer at noon. And then have numerous glasses of wine in the afternoon. And then get upset for a moment when we proposed going to din...	AdamMoz	5	489	Apr 22, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/22 (Preview) Possibilities and miracles are one and the same. --AnonymousMany of us have seen happiness as a goal we couldn't find. When we were children, we were taught that "life is a hard row to hoe." We carried that over into our adult lives.Seize the day - We let too many of our days just slide by. None of those hou...	Pythonpappy	0	416	Apr 22, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Simple Reminder 4/22 (Preview)	Pythonpappy	0	420	Apr 22, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Getting Started ( 1 2 ) (Preview) Started a new thread because the last one was so long. I need to find new friends that will support sobriety instead of threatening it. The issue is that so far, from the meetings I've been to were all people in their upper 30's or higher. I am only 19.	sorbsauce	101	1729	Apr 21, 2016 by sorbsauce
	12th Step - What do you wish Old Timers would tell you? (Preview) We're putting on a 12th Step workshop in my area later this month. As many of you know, good ole fashioned 12th step calls have changed (and not always for the better IMHO). Question - If you were attending, what are the top three things about working with others that you would want covered in the worksh...	Lisa in Iowa	12	694	Apr 21, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/21 (Preview) Living new livesIf we thank our Higher Power each day for the problems in our lives, we will find that we can live and cope with them. And if it is our Higher Power's will, our problems will be transformed in ways we cannot comprehend. We don't fully understand our lives.If we become willing to let our Hig...	Pythonpappy	0	402	Apr 21, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Drinking dream (Preview) Last night I had a vivid drinking dream. The basic premise was that I was spending the afternoon with a friend and ended up drinking so much that I blacked out for hours of conversation and was trying to remember what happened when I sobered up. The panic. The fear. The shame. The raw guilt that eats at you...	AdamMoz	6	650	Apr 21, 2016 by Mr_David
	spiritual experiances (Preview) this has always been my favorite topic. so here is my most recent....my ex and i have been broke-up about a year and i miss him, so doing the grief thing. i was sitting at the computer a few nights ago crying, thinking about him when suddenly a Bat flew in! the cats went crazy! i am not afraid of creatures and...	cindy	5	945	Apr 20, 2016 by MarcLacroix
	Grateful for 8.5 years sober (Preview) Hi all. It's been a while, quite a while in fact. Hoping some of you who shared your es&h with me are still here. I wouldn't be sober if it weren't for you! I started to go back and re-read some of my posts but decided against it until later (I have to admit I'm a little scared, I was such a BYOTCH 8 years ag...	Doll	5	516	Apr 20, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Simple Reminder 4/20 (Preview)	Pythonpappy	0	472	Apr 20, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/20 (Preview) What is strength without a double share of wisdom? Vast, unwieldy, burdensome proudly secure, yet liable to fall. --John MiltonWhat do we mean when we say someone is strong? That they have big muscles? Can endure anything without getting tired, let alone giving up? Do strong people never bend? Neve...	Pythonpappy	0	412	Apr 20, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Looking for a recovering alcoholic to go to a NOFX concert with me in JAX this Saturday 04/23/2016 concert nofx free tickets free ride (Preview) I have two tickets to the NOFX concert this Saturday (04/23/2016) at Mavericks in Jacksonville, FL. I am new (back) to the program and would like to attend the show, however, I would feel more comfortable if I went with another recovering alcoholic. I will be traveling from Savannah, GA. If anyone is i...	Mike D4	2	1204	Apr 19, 2016 by Fyne Spirit
	The World is Ending and I Am Scared... (Preview) * Begin Rant * In March of 1996, I quit drinking. About nine months later I had a stroke which nearly killed me. After getting out of the hospital Kim and I divorced. So now I live alone on Social Security Disability and I know what it feels like to live in fear some days. Even at 20 years sober there are d...	MarcLacroix	9	678	Apr 19, 2016 by leavetherest
	Today's Gift 4/19 (Preview) We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us... --Marcel ProustMany of us have known people new to recovery who enter a Twelve Step program only to encounter an enormous crisis or difficulty. It's tempting at that point to question th...	Pythonpappy	0	456	Apr 19, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Hola! (Preview) Hi everyone. It has, once again, been a long time. A lot has changed since I was here last. Probably the most significant is that I have a new son, and he is AWESOME. He is healthy and happy, and my wife and I are crazy about him. I want him to be raised by a father who, unlike my own, really has his stuff togethe...	AdamMoz	5	616	Apr 18, 2016 by JerryF
	I'm asking for support (Preview) Permalink Reply Quote More Edit PostDelete Post ...not so much for me and for a program sister who is going to be going thru yet another open heart surgery which comes with a lack of confidence from her surgeons. Her name is Robin and she has triple decades of sobriety. She is a mutuall...	JerryF	2	557	Apr 18, 2016 by Mr_David
	Simple Reminder 4/18 (Preview)	Pythonpappy	0	494	Apr 18, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Wisdom of the Rooms (Preview) April 18, 2016Quote of the Week"When I get the flu, I forget I was ever healthy." I've heard that the "ism" in alcoholism can stand for many things, but my favorite is "incredibly short memory." In sobriety, this presents a double problem. First, having a disease that is constantly telling me I don...	Pythonpappy	0	425	Apr 18, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift 4/18 (Preview) Watching a child acquire language, I realize, again, that naming things demystifies them. --Mary CaseySharing with another our fears of starting a new job, ending a relationship, getting into therapy, or even joining a social club will help us keep the fear in perspective. Fears that go undiscuss...	Pythonpappy	0	409	Apr 18, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote 4/18 (Preview) You must take personal responsibility. You cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind, but you can change yourself. That is something you have charge of. ~Jim Rohn	Pythonpappy	0	434	Apr 18, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Online meetings? (Preview) I have tried to get onto these online meetings,but no success.Does anyone know how you can join them?	chelle30	7	727	Apr 17, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Simple Reminder 4/17 (Preview)	Pythonpappy	0	454	Apr 17, 2016 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) You need to feel good about yourself, the motivation has to come from within. You have nobody to fall back on except yourself. ~Dana Hill	Pythonpappy	0	477	Apr 17, 2016 by Pythonpappy
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