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Hi all, thanks for the previous replies to my questions. They have really helped. Last night at the meeting I found that one AA friend slipped on Saturday, and one drank two bottles of vodka and cut her wrists.

These are the first people I have seen slip since I joined AA and I have found it very difficult.

Emotions have gone from wanting to fix everything for them, to anger at them for slipping, to feeling sorry for them, to feeling guilty for feeling so well myself. This has gone around and around in my head all day.

I know that they have their own paths to follow, and that I cant fix anything, but I have become really close to my fellow AA members and it has been really tough to see.

Any words of wisdom?



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Alcoholics relapse themselves to death. Anyone with any length of sobriety time are walking talking miracles. Expect to hear of, and maybe see plenty of deaths in aa.



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It took me a couple of months of meetings to realize that numerous fellows would be absent and were not coming back to the meetings. This was stunning to me.

I could only, at that time, be concerned with the fact that *I* was still sober. I was so beat up mentally and emotionally, that was all I could do.

I focused only on myself for a long time--maybe 3 years. Tunnel vision, pretty much.

Other people did it differently...

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You will have to get used to people disappearing from AA. There are people there for the sole reason to get court slips signed, who put in their # of meetings and you never see them again. Then there are friends with some time under their belts who would disappear, and then come back after a slip. I always made sure I told these people that I was glad they made it back and was so glad to see them again. The truth of the matter is some don't make it back, and I've attended some funerals in my AA career. But, I'm still sober, so I'm doing something right.

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The best advice I can give you is to make sure you are not one of them. Find a sponsor, get into those steps and have your own life changing spiritual experience. Meanwhile, be there to welcome the newcomer and those returning from relapse. Remeber those that get back are the lucky ones. Many dont make it back. There is no guarantee, so guard against that little voice that will tell you "if they got away with it, maybe I can too".

How do you guard against that? Find a sponsor, work the steps and have your own spiritual experience. In short, go for the solution.

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And if you don't believe in the spirituality hokum just play the tape recorder in your head, the one that says "Alcohol plus Me equals trouble." Still keeps me Sober.



-- Edited by Goofyman on Monday 24th of July 2017 02:07:08 AM

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Empathy is a useful emotion if used sparingly. This is a selfish program. You are here to get sober and recover from a disease that kills people. I didn't like hearing this and don't much like repeating it, but "you are going to walk over a lot bodies on your journey through sobriety". Find meetings with long term sobriety in them, surround yourself with folks that are making it. It's easy to see that you'll be one of them.

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Yeah, ... Slips were part of my early attempts at recovery ... until It became CRYSTAL clear that I seriously may not live through the next one ...

And one thing's for sure, I'd be long ago dead and buried had AA's program not been around ... or if I'd just said the Hell with it and had another drink ...



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After 9 years of not drinking and participating in the Al-Anon Family Groups and while also being a therapist in a large rehab I was triggered into doing my own assessment.  I had just finished an assessment for a kid on his way to inpatient care at the hospital I was connected to and when I turned from the door to go back to my desk, my Higher Power asked me, "what qualified him for in-patient care and not you"?  I had never exposed my drinking to anyone in the business.   I did an honest assessment including the 3 toxic shock events I experienced and keeping it anonymous took it to the adult section of the rehab for review.  I turned it in and waited.  The head nurse was a gal that came into recovery shortly after I did in the other program and when she came back to me told me that while she didn't know who it was the assessment was for that if that person ever drank again they would die.  When I exposed to her that it was my assessment; her reply was simply "How long have we known each other Jerry"? and after I replied she said, "You know what to do" and walked away.  That Friday I was in my first for real for sure AA meeting. Most of the people in the room were known to me either as clients of family in the fellowship and as they went around the room identifying themselves when they got to me I would not speak and so they did a magical thing...they stopped the meeting until I did and after I said "my name is Jerry F and I am alcoholic" they went on with the meeting.  I have not had a drink since 2/8/79.  Have I slipped? Yes I have and then held on furiously to the hands in the fellowship and my Higher Power to gain and maintain the spiritual sobriety of our program.  Thanks for letting me share that again.   ((((Hugs)))) smile



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Thanks for sharing that Jerry ... Learning from our past opens the door to recovery ... we simply need to decide what kind of future we wish to have and take the steps to see it come about ...

 

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