How To Conquer A Man At The Gym

AstrowPuall · Newbie

How To Conquer A Man At The Gym

peecee · Senior Member

not related to AA and not sure what your motive is to post all this without any introduction first whatsoever but ok...

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I knew I was doing everything wrong...thanx for the tips! Can't wait to apply them at the gym!

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I think it was the "elegant clothing and lots of make-up on my face" that was fucking me all up. Gosh, there's such a wealth of knoweledge and information on the Internet!

davep12and12 · MIP Old Timer

Two posts from a spammer for the purpose of including some links within the comments. Admins please clean up the spam. Thanks!

hopefulone · Senior Member

They never removed the last spammers. Maybe they should rename this board the "AG" board (Anything Goes).

Anyway, other than post that above "joke", I am taking the advice of others and not letting it bother me. Now please please, no one tell me you're "proud" of me for this....LOL

davep12and12 · MIP Old Timer

HA! Good one, hopefulone smile

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I'm happy for you, Hopefull1. Meet me at the gym. (I'll be the one without the make-up and elegant clothes).

Baba Louie · Senior Member

So, the people who write that stuff don't even read the replies? They just post it, and leave? That sucks. That's no fun. How am I going to f#%+ with these people if they don't read the replies. There should be a rule: if you make a post, you have to read the replies.

peecee · Senior Member

Yeah...I used to remove posts like this. Dave - you should PM John and volunteer to moderate.

davep12and12 · MIP Old Timer

peecee wrote:
Yeah...I used to remove posts like this. Dave - you should PM John and volunteer to moderate.

Dang it, me and my big mouth : )

And I thought I was doing so well at that 'restraint of pen and tongue' stuff : )

hopefulone · Senior Member

OK....I've had folks check on me and when I've last been on here, so I guess it is okay to check on others.....wagon was on here 11 hrs. ago, John has been 10 days, and Dean a week. I read several different times where he is not moderator--although his name is still on there for one.
I'd volunteer although you guys know I am still hyper-sensitive and there would be no "restraint"....even Pappy's everyday quoted thingie's are not safe from this ole gal.

(well, maybe I am not thatttt bad, however, I do delete some of my postings which I feel are inappropriate. And the spammers would not have a french fry in a hot oil's chance of selling their kitchen counters, furniture, fitness whatever, etc. and of staying on here very long :)

Tanin · MIP Old Timer

John, the owner of this web site, called for new moderators over 7 months ago. Two previous mods had just left (abruptly) and Dean said he could no longer mod because of work-related time constraints.

Last I read, Dean nominated 3 new ones. That was on January 23.

StPeteDean wrote:
I nominate Jerry, Roger, and Tasha for moderators, the mod squad

Nothing substantive since then. Apparently, there is insufficient motivation or time to Git-R-Done!

Maybe in 2016.

maire rua · Senior Member

Anyone know where I can get the recommended core text Josh Marvin The Author Of Pearly Penile Papule Removal System, I'm going through a rough time in sober sobriety and for some strange reason, this post has cheered me up no end.

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I have a copy of that. put your address up, and I'll send it to you.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Tanin wrote:
John, the owner of this web site, called for new moderators over 7 months ago. Two previous mods had just left (abruptly) and Dean said he could no longer mod because of work-related time constraints.
Last I read, Dean nominated 3 new ones. That was on January 23.
StPeteDean wrote:
I nominate Jerry, Roger, and Tasha for moderators, the mod squad
Nothing substantive since then. Apparently, there is insufficient motivation or time to Git-R-Done!
Maybe in 2016.

I just wanted to chime in here and 'repeat' that I was honored then, and still, to be thought qualified to be a Moderator here ... and I felt that with my frequent use of the board here, it might be a good idea ... the giving back 'n all ...

However, with the year I've had and the lingering severe pain issues, in trying to recover from prostate cancer, I did then, and still, don't feel up to a commitment to moderate this board at this time ... I currently take a fair amount of meds (per Dr's advice and prescription) that render me very loopy (drunk) only when the pain is stronger than I can endure at the time ... and feel it would be a disservice to the members of the MIP group here ... I take this board very seriously, okay, I do get a little off the beaten path at times with some humor, but hey, I like a little levity at times and think it healthy ... (and one Dr suggests that this particular problem could be 'long-term') ... trust me, they've tested everything and I'm here to tell you the pain is very, very REAL. and deep in the bones ... (perhaps you have noticed 'gaps' in my posting??? ...) ... (that's why) ...

Hey Pickle, maybe John would let you 'moderate' if you asked??? ... cause we certainly need a frequent user to watch the board ...

I love everyone on this board, even Tipsy McStagger, so I think I could remain unbiased for the most part ... I pray someday soon that I will feel confident enough in the future to volunteer for a spot on the moderator board IF John will have me ...

Thanks for bringing this up Pickle ...

Love you guys and God Bless,

Pappy

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I can't be a moderator. I've never been good at moderation. That's why I'm here.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

LMAO Baba .... you just 'made' my day !!!!!

Baba Louie · Senior Member

You've made my day plenty of times, Paps. Back at ya!

justadrunk · MIP Old Timer

Lol!!!

Rog... I think that whole tipsy thing really put a damper on this board and it's not yet fully recovered... imo. Maybe it wont with the rise of facebook revovery groups and the like. I dunno... but having a mod people can trust to be here often and who would practice principles above personalities is the platform we would need to kick start the amazing space this used to be again... and I believe in you.

(And dave12)

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I don't think Tipsy put a hurtin to the board. He said lots of controversial things, things against the norm, always questioning conventional wisdom. But anybody with half a brain just takes that stuff with a grain of salt. Was he toxic? idk, maybe for some people, not for me. I always just saw him as somebody who couldn't make up his mind whether he was alcoholic or not, and when he thought he was, he seemed to be looking for easier, softer ways to control it, or other alternatives. One thing is for sure, when he posted here, he got tons of views. People like controversy, alcoholic or not. It's just human nature. I mean, just read the news or watch the stupid television and you can figure that out.

Maybe it's like you said, Tasha, there are other internet (Facebook and what-not) places to go for people to look for help, advice, whatever they may be looking for. I'm happy just talking and sharing with the people that ARE here. Doesn't matter if it's 2, or 200.

who knows? Maybe all the alcoholics who used to follow this board are recovered now, and there ain't none left. I suspect not, though.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

justadrunk wrote:
Lol!!!

Rog... I think that whole tipsy thing really put a damper on this board and it's not yet fully recovered... imo. Maybe it wont with the rise of facebook revovery groups and the like. I dunno... but having a mod people can trust to be here often and who would practice principles above personalities is the platform we would need to kick start the amazing space this used to be again... and I believe in you.

(And dave12)

Hey Tash, ... ya know?, I tend to agree with you for the most part ... mom used to say that one bad apple could spoil the whole basket ... and I think a 'toxic' poster can and will do a lot of harm ESPECIALLY for a person new to recovery trying to make sense of what's happening to them ... they're struggling to put some kind of normalcy back in their lives and to read some of the posts that not only went vulgar, but got down right nasty toward other members here is NOT what a person with a very sensitive thought pattern needs to hear ... it's very counterproductive at the very least ...

Yes, we desperately need a few more 'Deans' watching this board and not someone who wears their emotions on their sleeve ... we don't need someone firing back nasty comments to an offender like it were some kind of a contest of who can be 'Master' of a war of words ... You hit the nail on the head, 'principles before personalities' ... that would return a certain 'class' to this board if you will ... and I feel others would be more inclined to call this 'home' for their AA support needs ... (personally, I think 'facebook' carries too much of a 'gossip' nature with it and is therefore why I never use it ...) ...

I am seeing some small improvement with my health problems and will seriously consider being a moderator in the future if John approves ... but I'm still struggling with having to take daily meds that may hamper my judgment ... and time on the board ...

Personally, I think YOU and Dave and Jerry(wheres he been?) would also be excellent candidates for the position ... as you know, tolerance is a big factor and I think you guys exhibit that extremely well ...

Love you and God Bless,

Pappy(Roger)

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Baba Louie wrote:
I don't think Tipsy put a hurtin to the board. He said lots of controversial things, things against the norm, always questioning conventional wisdom. But anybody with half a brain just takes that stuff with a grain of salt. Was he toxic? idk, maybe for some people, not for me. I always just saw him as somebody who couldn't make up his mind whether he was alcoholic or not, and when he thought he was, he seemed to be looking for easier, softer ways to control it, or other alternatives. One thing is for sure, when he posted here, he got tons of views. People like controversy, alcoholic or not. It's just human nature. I mean, just read the news or watch the stupid television and you can figure that out.
Maybe it's like you said, Tasha, there are other internet (Facebook and what-not) places to go for people to look for help, advice, whatever they may be looking for. I'm happy just talking and sharing with the people that ARE here. Doesn't matter if it's 2, or 200.
who knows? Maybe all the alcoholics who used to follow this board are recovered now, and there ain't none left. I suspect not, though.

To get a good idea of just how many people read this board, just study the "List of Users" column sometime ... and pay attention to the activity at the top of that section ... Tash is right, I think many more members would call this home if we didn't allow some of those 'controversies' to get carried away and especially allow them to remain on the board for so long ... and I think your impression of Tippy may have a lot of merit ...

I also think that the type of comments that came from Tip did, in fact, hurt this board ... cause it led to some 'solid' members going away that we desperately needed to have kept active here ... and you also hit the nail on the head about members with "half a brain" taking things with a grain of salt ... THINK a minute, just how well were you thinking the first few days after your last drink??? ... see, I'd wager that a ton of people that visit here over just a few days, do not have the capacity to see through some of the B.S. that Tip and others were able to throw out in a short period of time ... and if a moderator doesn't catch that crap real quick, ... well, the damage is done and cannot be undone ...

Just an opinion from a recovering old drunk ... ... ...

Love ya man and God Bless,

Pappy

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I get everything you're saying, Pappy, and you might be right about all of it. I'm just the kind of person who is very against censorship. If somebody posts something here that has nothing to do with alcoholism, then, yeah, take it down. But if somebody posts something about alcoholism, and we don't "agree" with it, well, I don't believe in censoring it. Maybe try to make some points about why we think they may be wrong, but to flat out delete somebody's post because we disagree with it is just kind of taking the easy way out. Of course, if somebody is berating someone else extensively, talking trash, being mean, and being obnoxious just to get some attention, and outright hurting somebody's feelings on a personal level, then, yes, you have to draw a line.

You made a good point about somebody being in their first few days or weeks of sobriety, and not thinking clearly. And negative posts might not be a good thing for them to read. BUT...the positive posts far outnumber the negative ones, and anybody in recovery is going to hear bad stuff about AA, or any other type of recovery program. They're gonna hear it sooner or later, and there will always be some people who disagree with the program, and try to knock it down, and run their mouth. Its just reality.

Hopefully, this reply doesn't get censored by a moderator.

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I don't really know a whole lot about how a forum and moderators work. But it seems to me, all the forum needs is a couple of level-headed people who read the new posts at least once a day, give them the power to delete, and when somebody puts something up that is toxic, just delete it. It doesn't seem to me, anyway, that it needs to be a full-time job by 1 person. You get 3 or 4 people, and even if 1 or 2 of them miss a day or 2 of checking posts, the other 2 will catch it. Doesn't seem like it's such a big commitment.

I vote for Pedro.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Hi Baba ...

I don't feel censorship has ever been a problem here ... and this subject is precisely why I haven't volunteered to be a moderator before now ... only right now, I have other issues that I feel would keep me from doing a good job ... I'm keeping an open mind here, but it's too soon for me to make such a commitment to doing a job that I feel is vital to this board ... those past times is something I wish the posters would have kept in mind that foul, vulgar language is NOT a sign of 'spiritual progress' ...

Anyway, I feel everyone has the right to their own opinion ... but there are times when there are things better left unsaid ... :P ... :) ...

Great conversation ...

Love ya dude and God Bless,
Pappy

Baba Louie · Senior Member

Sometimes I use foul language, Pappy, but it's usually just to emphasize a point, and/or inject humor into something. Sometimes, a well placed cuss word helps me to convey how strongly I feel about something! or make something funnier. But I'll watch it from now on, God damnit.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Baba Louie wrote:
I don't really know a whole lot about how a forum and moderators work. But it seems to me, all the forum needs is a couple of level-headed people who read the new posts at least once a day, give them the power to delete, and when somebody puts something up that is toxic, just delete it. It doesn't seem to me, anyway, that it needs to be a full-time job by 1 person. You get 3 or 4 people, and even if 1 or 2 of them miss a day or 2 of checking posts, the other 2 will catch it. Doesn't seem like it's such a big commitment.
I vote for Pedro.

Hey man, ... this is exactly how it's supposed to work ... and did for a long time ... but things change ...

Oh, ... Pedro who??? ...

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Baba Louie wrote:
Sometimes I use foul language, Pappy, but it's usually just to emphasize a point, and/or inject humor into something. Sometimes, a well placed cuss word helps me to convey how strongly I feel about something! or make something funnier. But I'll watch it from now on, God damnit.

LOL, ... my use of the language is exactly as you described here ... sometimes a well placed ugly word is the only word or expression that'll do ... but sense really getting involved in the AA program, I've really toned it down myself ... the only foul expression I never ever use, is your last two words here ... I take using my 'higher power's' name in vain very seriously ... but that's just me ... it's a free country ...

justadrunk · MIP Old Timer

Typically people with solid recovery will not only take tipsy style stuff with a grain of salt... they'll move along to where they find inspiration and peace. Positive input is every persons responsibility. We all know that when things get unhealthy most people will just detach with love for self and allow someone(s) to reach a bottom they deserve. I love the people who walked away from me and let me crash today. I and many others did the same here and few solid members as pappy mentioned came back. Which is sad but fine... life goes on. There is potential here again. Xxxxhugsxxx

Baba Louie · Senior Member

I just don't let stuff like that bother me. The way I see it, the guy hadn't had enough of being a partier (alcoholic) yet. But, he must have been close, and thinking about it, or he wouldn't have been coming here. I don't think he was a troll. Yeah, he did "troll" sometimes to create controversy, but I think he was just a confused alcoholic. I'm not trying to stick up for the guy, but I don't think someone like that should scare away anybody with any kind of long term sobriety. But it might scare away newcomers, so I can see your point about keeping people like that off of the board.

I also realize that just because it doesn't bother me, it still might bother somebody else. And this ain't about me.

Baba Louie · Senior Member

In other news: regarding the OP...Yer tips ain't working. Maybe I'm wearing the wrong perfume.

Baba Louie · Senior Member

Pappy, the "Vote for Pedro" thing is from some dumb movie. I won't even tell you the name of it, cause it's really stupid.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Baba Louie wrote:
Pappy, the "Vote for Pedro" thing is from some dumb movie. I won't even tell you the name of it, cause it's really stupid.

I fig'rd as much ... like you, I let it pass ... it wasn't important and no issue taken, LOL ...

peecee · Senior Member

Moderating is a challenge. For me, one I took on too early in sobriety when I was super gung ho AA and had no tolerance even for moderate dissension. I will also say that with moderating, you are at the whims of the owner ultimately - who can be awesome in most cases, except if you cross him. Then all your work and service will not matter and you can even get tarred on the public forum and never get an apology/amends...nothing. That was my experience. So whoever does it - it's not for anyone with delicate sensibilities.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

I appreciate the input ... and I figured as much ... I knew a few years sober would be a must ... as well as 'spiritual development' and 'progress in living the principles' ...

The part that I considered would be most difficult, and still do, would be that the job requires you sit in judgement of others, in a sense ... and I'm not too comfortable with that, in part, because it is a very 'thankless' job ... I am starting to think, 'so what', what others think about me is none of my business anyway ... plus I have the absolute best consultant, my higher power, God ... ... ...

Thank you for your past service PC, and God Bless,
Pappy

justadrunk · MIP Old Timer

I loved Napolean Dynamite - it is dumb watching it the first time - the subtle humor shines through by the second time through ;)

Baba Louie · Senior Member

ha! I knew somebody would have picked up the vote Pedro thing. Yeah, it's subtle humor. That's a good word for it. It takes a little bit of thinking, but once you get the little innuendos and hidden meanings, it's pretty brilliant. Still dumb. But brilliant.

If that makes any sense.