One major observation I made as I continued in AA in early sobriety was names of people, that is remembering them. When I first started going to meetings, I met a number of people and the the next time I went to that meeting I had a hard time remembering any bodies name. It was embarrassing to me because they seemed to remember mine. The longer I stayed in the program the better my memory got. Not too hard to figure out for this juice head. Now, if I could just remember where the hell I put my glasses or my car keys. Progress not perfection. Have a good sober day Pappy.

Hmmm.... I had been waking up 2 am while drinking but as soon as I stopped I slept like a log from the next night on. I suppose different for everyone.

Hey Tash, ... did you mention your Dad was in the hospital ??? ... or recovery ??? ... how's he coming along ??? ... and what about the 'distance' you now have from him since you moved ???...

PM me if you prefer ... 

Happy Birthday Pappy! 6 weeks without coffee now and sleeping much better, stress way down, blood pressure normal. I feeling a lot better, feels magical like early sobriety.

Yeah Pappy it was my choice. I quit before for about 6 month but relapsed when on a ski trip. I realized it was causing me shortness of breath (Caffeine constricts your blood vessels) when I exercised, skied, rode my dirtbike.... I was losing sleep, which causes weight gain, and stress, memory loss... enough was enough. Now I'm drinking herbal tea and enjoying it. I was also getting arthritis in my hands, swollen joints, knots on my knuckles. I started drinking ginger tea with turmeric and cumin, arthritis is completely gone.

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Does the herbal tea fix all that with the absence of coffee ??? ...

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I like to know as well. Do you blend your own tea, Dean? I know they make ginger tea but I never saw it with turmeric and cumin. If you do, may I have the recipe or a link to one, possibly? It may help my arthritis as well. Thanks. 

 

P.S. Happy Birthday Roger. How about some cake?

 

or maybe some ice cream?

Seems like old times, doesn't it? LOL

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Oh Lord Mr. David, ...

Good thing I just set a bowl of chocolate cake flavored ice cream in front of me, else I'd be up get'n some right now, LOL  ... it has some age to it and I felt it necessary to check to be sure it hadn't gone bad, LOL ... and I must confess, I made two dozen cookies and two pies late yesterday ... Funny thing is, I hadn't been craving any sweets until I read what the 'side effects' of my hormone treatment were ... they say weight gain is one of them, in addition to some not so nice effects ...

yeah buddy, turned the big 62 yesterday ... noticed I've got hair grow'n out my ears and grow'n out my nose, and my eye brow hair has been growing out of control like a bunch of wild weeds ... darn thing is, the back center part of the hair on my head has disappeared ... and there's no baldness in my family, go fig'r ...

Ahhhh, the pleasures of aging ... ... ...

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 I hear you, Roger. My hair is so thin it's hardly recognizable. My wife bought me one of those baldness sprays as a joke. Who knows, I might need it for my toupee later on. 

P.S. Here's a sure fire remedy for sleep deprivation. 

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Oh wow Mr. David, the 3 Stooges were my favorite as a kid ... never missed a show ... wow, 50 years ago ??? ...

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I've never seen it in a tea either - and I'm sure I wouldn't drink it - even just ginger tea is one of the worst things I have ever choked down. However - I have been taking Tumeric (organic) & Ginger (organic) (capsules) for the past 3 yrs and it's the first and only thing that has cured my back pain, bursitis in my shoulder - and arthritis in my fingers! It really is a miracle!

Here is the what I've been taking every day - I take double the dose, so 2-3 pills a day:
www.amazon.com/Organic-India-TURMBTL-Turmeric-90-Count/dp/B000YC70XY/ref=sr_1_2



This is just the link to the tumeric but this company has all of it - and I also have been taking Milk Thistle seed (organic) for many many many years which helps with liver function and over all health, arthritis and stuff.


xoxoxo

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          Awesome dear. Thanks.

Gosh, reading this thread, I learned a lot. Didn't know that caffeine restricts, or contracts blood vessels and that could or would lead to shortness of breath. i struggle with breathing a lot, COPD, have to use a emergency inhaler from time to time. And yes, still smoke cigs like a idiot. But I believe that will be coming to a end in near future. I know it will. But coffee too? Gawh! I am not real sure I'm ready to do all that! LOL But hey, I am only going to quit putting this stuff in my body to improve my quality of life and maybe increase its longevity, right? (as though there should be a better reason, or I need one, still sick in denial at some level I guess).


arthritis in my fingers/hands... and this herbal stuff called Tumeric and Ginger in capsules could help it? The arthritis I am experiencing is fairly mild, but any thing I can do relatively simple to help deal or eliminate its discomfort, I probably need to be hearing about right now, before it continues to progress.

My sleeping habits are ridiculous to most people. I am a late nighter, 1, 2, 3 am going to sleep, and up at 4, 5 or 6 am. This is not new. I have been doing this as long back as I can remember. Don't think it started as a result of getting sober, but before then, for fear I would miss out on some kind of action or something. Or I'd lose the opportunity to create some in those sleeping hours. LOL I have become a napper though. When I can lay down for a few hours, and catch a few z's I do.

I am not healthy or in good shape. If I weigh a buck forty, I'd be surprised. I'm 56 this year and about 6 ft tall. Work like a horse, but I am feeling my age and the lack of healthiness these days.

Dean, you are in great shape, I wish I had taken care of myself as well as you seemingly have.

I am moving into what people call their golden years and all I can foresee is me having to work until the day I die, or die trying to.

So, here I go off to work again, and probably stop by a GNC to see about getting some Tumeric and Ginger.

Thanks for the info

John

Ok, so my wife found a Chinese Tea shop in St. Petersburg that is family owned and they own their tea business in China. The Tea is organic Turmeric Ginger. Like Tasha said I drank 3 cups in the morning and 3 at night for about a week and then eased up. Swollen knuckles went away, little red bumps went away, soreness gone. It seems to have a cumulative affect, takes a little while to get into your system and stays in. I quit drinking the tea for a week and some soreness returned.

Now I did do a lot of reading and inflammation and it causes all kinds of problems and damages joints the longer it's allowed to continue. There are a lot of different types of arthritis so results may vary.

With that said, I looked at what can cause inflammation and eating salt or salty foods was a big part, along with not drinking enough water and lack of potassium. So I did some more reading and there are vegetables and fruits that are anti-inflamatories that will help, which I did. So I went on a salad diet with olive oil and vinegar with a little bit of chicken or reduced salt tuna for protein. I got sliced unsalted almonds (great source of protein and Omega 3) that boosts good cholesterol - LDL. I cut out sugar, processed foods, salt, ate lots of fruit and this awesome Tea. Turns out I am taking Cumin separately, it's not in the tea.

Results were, sleeping better, headaches gone, arthritis gone, blood pressure returned to normal, stress way down, lost 8 lbs. and feeling better overall.

here's one of the articles I read that sparked my interest in diet change to fight arthritis. My mother (and grandmother had) has RA bad and I'm hoping not to go there.

www.dummies.com/how-to/content/fighting-arthritic-pain-with-the-right-foods.html

This tea co. has a website http://www.mingmingtea.com

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